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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Considering how Starship Troopers is a reactionary franchise (yes, it's a franchise and no, one satirical movie doesn't take away the original book, subsequent movies, and spinoff cartoons and games being sincerely reactionary), I don't think the OP should be as smug in their tweet. When you have a single movie that's against fascism but everything else including action figures that goes, "fascism is cool and sexy acktually," then it stops mattering that the one single movie is satirical. It's like how Rambo is jingoistic trash even if the first movie wasn't really jingoistic trash.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess, but does anyone in 2024 think about anything other than the Verhoeven movie when talking about Starship Troopers? The original tweet has a screen cap of that movie that is making fun of people like Auron.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At the end of the day, the satirized characters all have action figures that are sold in toy stores. Who's the actual butt of the joke?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Okay and you can buy Capital on Amazon. I bet I can get a Karl Marx bobblehead somewhere

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

My point is that the action figures propagate the idea that the first film should be taken sincerely and that a franchise with works outside the first film exists. Obviously, people selling Capital on Amazon aren't going to make people read Capital as an ironic work.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The first Rambo is absoulutely still jingoistic trash, it just inexplicably frames some small town cops as veteran haters

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

White America didn’t always have this love affair with the cops. You can find lots of media from the 70s and earlier that depicts cops in a neutral or negative light.

It was only as America became less segregated, starting in the 70s. Up until then, of course the cops were used to oppress black folks but that was largely out of sight from the white folks. Once the suburbs started to desegregate more (they are of course still highly segregated), white folks started looking to cops as the saviors of white supremacy. Even then, this really only achieved the current incredibly high levels of bootlicking after the Michael Brown shooting, when white folks began to explicitly, uncritically support cops as a way to express white supremacy without coming out and saying it directly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As bad as Rambo 1 might be, it was nowhere near as bad as Rambo 2 or Rambo 3 or the Rambo cartoon.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

True enough, but that bar is so low to clear you'd need a shovel

It makes it the best Rambo movie, but it's stil jingoistic trash.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Rambo is 100% jingoistic trash.