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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's the reason they're rejecting it. From the article:

“Barring a Ukrainian demand signal” for peace talks, “there’s unlikely to be a push from Washington,” he said.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is anybody actually so naive as to believe that Ukraine has any say in this?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

https://news.gallup.com/poll/512258/ukrainians-stand-behind-war-effort-despite-fatigue.aspx

Key points:

  • 60% want to keep fighting until victory (which >90% define as everything including Crimea liberated) -- down from 70% about a year ago
  • Zelensky's approval rating is >80%

So not only Ukraine but ukrainians seem to agree with White House's assessment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's back from October last year, a lot has happened since then such as massive failure of the Ukrainian offensive. However, what Ukrainians want is entirely beside the point. US makes the decisions.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

From October of last year after they conscripted... Pretty much everyone who had a problem with the new junta and shipped them off to die at that point. Like, are we gonna take the approval of fuckin Banderites seriously now?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago