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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"They're gonna make me eat bugs! Now let me enjoy this shrimp scampi appetizer before I have a lobster."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Shrimp are arthropods and so are bugs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That's not how it works, but if it will encourage people to be less squeamish about eating bugs.... Sure.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

So they are going to make us eat bugs!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

How is that not how it works? Insects are arthropods. So are crustaceans, including shrimp. Is it because they live on land that makes people squeamish?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Insects are arthropods but it doesn't mean all arthropods are insects. Much like how squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"Bugs" is a generic term for everything from insects to arachnids and other things like Pillbugs - a crustacean and close relative of shrimp. Aquatic crustaceans may not typically be included, but the point is the distinction is arbitrary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're really stretching here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is there any argument to be made that edible crustaceans aren't bugs that doesn't boil down to 'ew gross'? I simply don't see how this is a stretch in any way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely. 'Bug' refers to insects (and, more colloquially, some other small invertebrates such as spiders and centipedes). Crustaceans are not insects.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Crustaceans are as closely related to insects as spiders and centipedes are. You're splitting antennae here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I doubt that pill bugs taste like lobster, despite the minor similarities.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

150 years ago Lobster was considered disgusting trash food only eaten by the poorest Americans. This isn't about taste, it's about perception and the availability of meat. The main difference between a Pillbug and a shrimp (in terms of edibility) is the size. Most small bugs don't have enough meat to be worth preparing in a way where it's not obvious you're eating a bug. It's pretty much just aquatic arthropods that can escape the limitations of air breathing to get large enough to be a more appetizing food source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

That's a highly exaggerated myth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I doubt that pill bugs taste like lobster, despite the minor similarities.

Shrimp.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Yes, but if some arthropods are edible then it makes sense that others are edible.