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Settlers is weird in some places - and I still haven't read most of it, just skipped around - like scoffing at college education as essential, but i think there is a lot of interesting stuff in there too

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve heard of but never read this one.

I can’t tell if this is meant, in full context, as a list of grievances or like a “look at these fuckin’ people ova ‘ere!” or if it’s completely serious and meant to be taken literally.

The reason I can’t tell if it’s literal or exaggeration to make a point is because of the examples given of luxury. I know the book is “old” (gotta use quotes to protect my ego on that one), so I’d be more curious to see this rewritten in a modern context using modern luxuries. What would stay on the list and what would go?

They cite phones there which would remain but instead of meaning landline, corded boomer phones it would mean smartphones. Cellphones are considered, and probably just are?, essential by most Americans. Note I’m not saying smartphones are. Just a cellphone even 2005 era flip phone piece of shit. It’s basically just expected for 20 years now that you can be contacted via phone, text or call, any time and this includes work, unfortunately.

The internet broadly I’d consider essential. This could be wrapped in a cheap smartphone plan. I know outside the US such plans can be incredibly inexpensive, so this doesn’t seem like such a luxury. Even in the US unlimited call, text and like 2-5GB cellular data (with unlimited but very throttled after that) are very inexpensive. I’d hardly consider any of this a luxury for the last decade or so in the US. Upgrading a smartphone yearly, of course, would be taking this to that ultra consumer level.

Cars are essential unless you live in one of very few cities (NYC most famously) that has the infrastructure to not need a car. More than one car is definitely a luxury, but also like… even just for work purposes, imagine a mature family, mom, dad, two kids who work/go to a local college. They basically need at least two cars but realistically, with schedule conflicts, they do “need” four. Otherwise you end up missing work (fired immediately in shithole US) or school (less serious but still, you’re gonna get fucked over if missing exams and such). The obvious solution is “duh, mass transit!” but for the moment, right now, how can you blame the individual? What are they supposed to do? Build high quality, free public housing near a metropolitan walkable city with properly integrated transit? I don’t intend to shift all responsibility from the average American, if anything we all need more personal responsibility shoved on our heads if only to wake people the fuck up, but it’s a very clear, to me, non-choice situation. There’s no agency here for the individual beyond “I’ll choose to share a car with my brother and try to match our work schedules to make it doable.” That’s kind of the entire crux of the shit sandwich of a situation… all these bad decisions were made for us a long time ago and through decades of complacency, orchestrated by those who benefit from selling cars, TVs, etc., the end result is this system where you either “choose” to live within the rules which exist and can only be bent so far or you, do what, become homeless? Move to another country? Like what alternative is there really? It’s incredibly bleak. The best example I can come up with at 630 am (fuck me…) is that fat kid from Matilda who is forced to eat the cake. That is every American basically. We’re all fat little kids sat down in front of our favorite fat treat and told “eat the delicious slop you fucking hogs!” It’s honestly the perfect situation for capital at large to have created a population that requires treats and certain things to simply keep a roof over their head and food to eat.

I got carried away on that one, but back to the idea of consumption, to be clear, Americans obviously over consume everything. And the further you get from those “just getting by” the more egregious it gets with the dually, smoke-stacked diesel truck to “roll coal” and the TV in every room, new iPhone yearly, iPhone for the 10 year old, premium super weed (totally a necessity!), etc. forever basically. Everyone sees it and knows it. We all mock each other like “pfft. You don’t need a new GPU for your pc. What a waste!” meanwhile hypocritically you’re buying a nicer car or new patio furniture or [insert anything]. We all judge over consumption while also over consuming and any reduction or any hint towards “hey, maybe it would be good if this ended?” is the worst sin of all. Such a sin that I’m going to pussy out and run away from that entire fucking book worth of shit to even lay the good faith foundations to discuss it without everyone joining to stab you to death.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the point may have been more of a "look how society makes these things, which should be luxuries, completely mandatory." I think it may be trying to push for the point that western society is set up in a way for force consumption onto people whether they like it or not.

Sakai is a bit of an enigma to me tbh though, so I could be way off and this is just a charitable reading of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's basically what my own conclusion is when considering the situation. I didn't get that from the couple pages posted here, but, I can be wrong.