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Enlightened centrism
But what about their factories/apartment buildings/office buildings? You can't just take those away and give.it to the people who work/live there right?
Right?
Anarchism, actually.
mfw anarchists actually succeed in overthrowing the capitalist class but then are immediately crushed by external reactionary forces because they said the proletariat must not seize state power because that's authoritarian 🤯 [the outcome was obvious from the start]
this makes you look worse actually lol
Oh no, my reputation on a Tankie sub has been ruined. Tbh, if you guys ever get control, I'll probably get the bullet because I can't keep my mouth shut and some fuckstick revolutionary officer is going to overhear me talking shit about the party. Not really worried about it, let come what may.
why are yalls brains just persecution complex fanfiction factories
If this... "anarchist" replies, please ping me. Or if a comrade replies with a good analysis of why, please also ping me.
Y'all really do sound like kids when y'all talk like this I hope you know that
I think I've got the measure of the rhetoric. Anarchists are inexperienced and unburdened by the wisdom of the truth and, given only time and wisdom, we'll come around to the truth that organized murder is the only way we'll ever be free. I think that's an intellectually lazy view that auths arrive at because it's just easier to hit fuck it and start murdering people than dealing with them with compassion and intelligence. That's why the CIA is so big on right-wing violence, it's just easier to use violence to get what they want now, no matter if it's going to blow up in their face thirty years on down the line.
What world do you live in where MLs just want to murder people instead of dealing with them with compassion? And lmao at the weak connection with the CIA, as if they didn't spend the entirety of the 70s and 80s attempting to stop MLs.
i would add like 50s and 60s too
In other words ever since communism became a real thing
wasn't that really the main point of the OSS and CIA anyway?
Yep. The founding fathers of the CIA were Wall Street fascists and Nazi friendos. Got a bunch of horrific Nazis out of any punishment whatsoever. There were even rumors that FDR wanted to charge Allen Dulles with treason for befriending a bunch of Nazi brass during the war. Good thing for Dulles, the CIA, and Wall Street that FDR kicked the can before then, and even better that they had organized for their man (Truman) to be VP that term.
Tldr: the CIA was started by Nazi-sympathetic US capitalists as an anti-communist organization.
The ruling class and its lackeys will never, EVER, give up their lifestyle without a fight and once they lose it, they will do ANYTHING to have it back. History tells us this with the Hungarian “revolution” of 1956 and the counter revolutions that happened throughout the late 80s early 90s.
Moral of the story: By seizing state power, the proletariat must become the oppressors, and not believe in childish notions of “noooo I can’t be as bad as them”
Let’s hope you drop your idealistic views until then and figure out that you cannot maintain a revolution without seizing state power. Your association of defense volunteers is just an inferior version of an actual centralised army.