Teachers describe a deterioration in behaviour and attitudes that has proved to be fertile terrain for misogynistic influencers

“As soon as I mention feminism, you can feel the shift in the room; they’re shuffling in their seats.” Mike Nicholson holds workshops with teenage boys about the challenges of impending manhood. Standing up for the sisterhood, it seems, is the last thing on their minds.

When Nicholson says he is a feminist himself, “I can see them look at me, like, ‘I used to like you.’”

Once Nicholson, whose programme is called Progressive Masculinity, unpacks the fact that feminism means equal rights and opportunities for women, many of the boys with whom he works are won over.

“A lot of it is bred from misunderstanding and how the word is smeared,” he says.

But he is battling against what he calls a “dominance-based model” of masculinity. “These old-fashioned, regressive ideas are having a renaissance, through your masculinity influencers – your grifters, like Andrew Tate.”

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[–] 19 points 2 years ago (15 children)

They equate money with competence ignoring the fact that a lot of his money was illegally made.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    Money == sex.

    As long as women keep throwing themselves at people like Andrew Tate, men are going to look up to him.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    You’re not wrong. But it shifts the blame to women when the onus should be on men to to be responsible.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 years ago (11 children)

    It's not about being "responsible." Andrew Tate isn't "responsible" and women throw themselves at him.

    It's about money. Andrew Tate has a lot of it, so he gets a lot of sex.

    It's what encourages men to be as shitty as possible in order to make as much money as possible.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    I don’t feel like explaining. It’s capitalism. Patriarchy serves capitalism.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Umm, then why do women prefer to have sex with wealthy men over regular ones?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (7 children)

    Why don't women do something to change it?

    Why do they still encourage each other to have sex with the richest men possible?

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  • [+] -6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Because women don’t control society- Patriarchy. But they need security- capitalism.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    It's not security, it's greed. Lol.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    Which is what makes capitalism go brrr. If you were a woman, which would offer more security for your future; a man making 30k, or a man worth 5 million?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Yes, and valuing wealthy men over regular men encourages regular men to be as scummy as possible to gain more wealth. It also enables wealthy men to have shitty personalities because they know they will still get laid.

    This has been my point from the very beginning, I'm not sure why you keep replying to me.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Because it’s capitalism. Not the women. Get rid of capitalism and equalize their choices. Take away their need for security, and everyone gets laid.

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