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As an Australian, no we didn't. We just had it put in context. Jews around the world are great people, the Israeli government and the hardline supporters are absolute monsters. I hope the Australian government tells them as much. Israel deserves no support and everything that may happen when it's withdrawn.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why are we even allied with israel if this is how they treat us. They are like the your most abusive gaslighting ‘friend’.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"somebody was mean to us eighty years ago, so we can do whatever we want now"

(Yes I know antisemitism predates the holocaust by millennia. Shh)

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It would be a victim complex if they actually believed their stance, but it's really just a classic case of the abused becoming the abuser... or, more accurately, the genocided becoming the genocider.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No one that was in the Holocaust is in any kind of position of power in Israel, which makes it even more pathologically disturbing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

They were for most of Israels history, and they taught the current gen both nationalism, and how to treat the "others".

[–] [email protected] -3 points 9 months ago

It's a Guardian article. The Guardian has had Headlines that are incredibly biased against Israel for at at least a few decades now. The trick to reading biased news outlets like the Guardian is to focus mostly on the quotes, and completely ignore inflammatory headlines.

"The UN and many of its member states, including Australia, voted for a humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza that would only help Hamas to reorganize – a resolution that again failed to condemn Hamas, and again failed to call for the release of all hostages,” Maimon wrote on X on Friday."

“Now, listening to the most recent remarks by Australian officials, it seems that Hamas’s culpability has been forgotten – along with the fate of tens of thousands of displaced Israelis and the starvation of Israeli hostages in Gaza."

When you call for a ceasefire you should recognize that both sides have to agree to it. Basic diplomacy, don't make out one side as being the bad guy if you want them to agree to something.

Hamas is holding civilians hostages (which is a war crime), but countries are demanding a ceasefire in way that makes Israel out as being evil.

It's a "have you stopped beating your wife?" kind of thing. Putting someone into a situation where no matter what their answer is, they're in the wrong.

Imagine you were being held hostage in the underground lair of some psychopaths, being tortured and raped for months. Your government was doing everything thing they could to get you out. Then some countries that hate you and your country demand they stop. Would you want your government to listen to people that hate you and everyone else in your country?

Calls for a ceasefire that don't even mention the hostage situation are not serious diplomatic efforts. They're just political moves, playing for the home crowd, playing for the social media crowd.