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After scuttling a months-long search for a new host, the Paramount Global network said it had enlisted Jon Stewart, who presided over the late-night mainstay’s most popular era, to serve as its host on Monday nights throughout the 2024 election cycle and to run the program. He is expected to oversee the program through 2025. Various “Daily Show” correspondents will host the program Tuesday through Thursday nights, and Jen Flanz, the current executive producer, will continue her duties on the show.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Finally, some good news.

Out of a lot of jackasses in the world, Jon Stewart continues to be clear-headed unmitigated good.


Yes, that means I have forgiven him for using trans people as the butt of his jokes for a long time, and I'm hoping he's had enough growth to understand why those were bad. Also, to be fair, it's been quite a while since he has done a joke like that. And if he turns on a dime and makes some uncouth remarks about trans folks, he'll be in shit-city with me, and I'll take back the good things I said about him. Pretty sure he won't tho.

[–] [email protected] 88 points 10 months ago (1 children)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jon-stewart-atones-for-his-own-shitty-anti-trans-jokes

He is self aware and takes responsibility, which I think is the best thing we can expect from just about anyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I did link that at the end, after a quick Google. I don't have AppleTV and never saw The Problem with Jon Stewart, so I was unaware of this, but the fact that he defended Chappelle at first was a bad look and to my knowledge he hasn't amended his statement on Chappelle's defense.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Stewart didn't defend Chapelle, Stewart opposed censorship and penalties with one reason being Stewart being called antisemitic for criticizing how Israel treats Palestinians. Note this is from 2022 and I'm pretty sure Stewart still thinks Israel's actions are terrible.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/11/jon-stewart-defends-dave-chappelle-controversial-snl-monologue

During his appearance on The Late Show With Stephen Colbert on Tuesday, Stewart pushed back on the belief that Chappelle “normalized antisemitism” with his 15-minute commentary that involved Kanye West’s and Kyrie Irving’s recent scandals. “I don’t know if you’ve been on comment sections on most news articles, but it’s pretty fucking normal. As you know, it’s incredibly normal,” Stewart began. “But the one thing I will say is, I don’t believe that censorship and penalties are the way to end antisemitism or to not gain understanding. I don’t believe in that, and I think it’s the wrong way for us to approach it.”

Stewart, who was present at the Los Angeles comedy event where Chappelle was attacked onstage after his set in May, agreed with the comic that “it shouldn’t be this hard to talk about things,” adding, “I’m called antisemitic because I’m against Israel’s treatment of Palestinians. I’m called other things from other people based on other opinions that I have…Whether it be comedy or discussion or anything else, if we don’t have the wherewithal to meet each other with what’s reality, then how do we move forward?… If we all just shut it down, then we retreat to our little corners of misinformation and it metastasizes. And the whole point of all this is to not let it metastasize and to get it out in the air and talk about it.”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

And anyone coming from Reddit (or here) should understand.

How many comments aren't posted just to avoid the backlash and downvotes?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm talking about something that preceded that and is about Stewart defending Chappelle's anti-trans jokes and positions.

I'm not linking directly to a shitrag like the New York Post, but I couldn't find another article on it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20211022145129/https://nypost.com/2021/10/22/jon-stewart-defends-decent-dave-chappelle-amid-scandal/

Chappelle has been under fire since the release of “The Closer” earlier this month, in which he declared himself to be a “trans-exclusionary radical feminist” (TERF).

“They canceled JK Rowling — my God. Effectually, she said gender was fact, the trans community got mad as s–t, they started calling her a TERF … I’m Team TERF,” Chappelle quipped in the stand-up special.

Stewart defended Chappelle over the anti-trans jokes he made in The Closer.

Speaking with TMZ, he described Chappelle as “warm,” “wise” and “decent.”

“Look, if this spurs a conversation where people get more on the same page in terms of understanding, that’d be great, but I know his intention is never hurtful — like, he’s just not that kind of person,” Stewart said.

“And if it is [hurtful], it’s certainly unintentional … He’s really a good man.”

Stewart and Chappelle have been friends for years, and the pair performed together in Ireland back in 2018.

Stewart specifically defended Chappelle after Chappelle referred to himself as a TERF on his standup special.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! I had not seen that one yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah it would mean a lot to me if Jon Stewart could just say "Okay, yeah, Chappelle is officially being hurtful on purpose."

Because he fucking is. Guy basically thinks trans people should have to suffer the indignities black people did to get respect... because he doesn't realize they fucking did already. But beyond whether they did or not already, does Chappelle really want to fucking play Oppression Olympics? Fuck me man, I thought we all deserved respect because of human rights, not because we were supposed to suffer under abuse first. That's some real Boomer shit, "It was bad for me, so I better see it being bad for you before I respect you."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Chapelle has completely shit the bed over thr last decade by switching from someone who had clever takes on racial issues with some shitty takes on other subjects to leaning entirely into spewing hate while crying about nonexistent cancel culture.

Yes, Chapelle wants to play oppression Olympics while excusing his hot takes because he had 'one trans friend'. I forced myself to watch most of his Closer special to see if it was as bad as people claimed and it was, so from here on out I will just assume the worst things said about him are probably true.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

while crying about nonexistent cancel culture.

Isn't it amazing that the people that cry about this the most fill stadiums for their shows? Must be fucking terrible to be "cancelled" and rolling in fucking money.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The only people that have actually been canceled by 'cancel culture' are sex offenders like Bill Cosby and Kevin Spacey. Before that people like Harvey Weinstein was canceling women for not giving him blowjobs.

Yeah, anyone who tries to milk the myth of cancel culture for publicity is a piece of shit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I would just like to add that I think the right more aggressively pursues the parody of "cancel culture" that they claim exists on the left. They canceled the Dixie Chicks who were nearing the height of their career and said something bad about Bush and the war in Iraq and were put out to pasture. Same thing with Sinead O'Connor and her ripping up a picture of the pope...there are dozens of examples...dozens! arrested_development_dozens.gif

It's the same thing they do with a lot of things. For instance they'll claim the left is using "identity politics" while running on "keep black people out of the suburbs" and "keep gay people out of wedlock" as a platform.

I personally believe the idea is to associate effective tools and mechanisms with "overreach by the left" so people on the left stop using them and they can continue to be used and abused purely for right-wing causes without critique.

I mean look at how they'll constantly associate "virtue signaling" with the left while they're sending around Christmas cards with the whole family smiling and holding rifles.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

You can boil it down to "they don't LIVE in good faith."

Everything is performative and a means to and end. They don't have values other than power over others.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Oh but it’s so easy to just say “cancel culture!” in response to anything I don’t like! Damn libs taking everything good away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I'm less concerned about trans jokes specifically, but I worry that Jon Stewart of now won't be able to live up to our memories of him during the W years. Will be be sufficiently progressive for modern left viewers, or is he going to be a Bill Maher "center left" type? Will he be is sharp and cutting as he was, and be able to translate that to a world that is so more polarized and down the rabbit hole with conspiracy theories and all that junk?

Basically I'm afraid this is Michael Jordan coming out of retirement to play for the Washington Wizards.

Maybe my concerns are not well placed, I didn't catch his newer show because I don't feel like subscribing to Apple TV, so I don't know where he's at nowadays. I'm cautiously optimistic, but I'm fully prepared to be let down.