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It's absolutely insane, especially when it comes from those who claim to want to preserve ethnic identities.
If they're gonna invoke other national identities in conversation, the least they could do is learn about them. If anything drawing comparisons to ethnic cleansing over a fucking beauty pageant is more insensitive than pretty much anything else in this thread.
Other than their connotations that someone cannot be a real Japanese because of their skin colour, that reminds me a bit about America's history of treating black people.
I didn’t bring ethic cleansing Into the conversation….. that was their stretch and half from me talking about Native American pageants having to be presented that way.
Since American pageants are about non-native Americans now.
How you came to ethnic cleansing from that… fuck if I know, but it’s fallacious at best.
Right but the history behind Native American beauty pageants takes place in the aftermath of ethnic cleansing and subjugation. You simply can't divorce the two subjects because they affected everything in their culture and way of life.
Ethnic cleansing, put simply, is the form the whitewashing took form of, and it took everything from the Native Americans. Their homes, their land, their history, their identity, their cultures were either all gone or held on by a thread.
It has taken so fucking long for them to rebuild even a fraction of what they had, and the pageants were part of that process, an attempt to rebuild an ethnic identity from the ashes.
Japan never had that history. The Japanese were not nearly wiped out by European colonialists, they were not hunted to the point of extinction and cultural death. Their issues right now stem from their own societal failures.
So when you invoke native American history as a comparison, you should consider the context. In your example, it would be understandable that people might be offended if a white person won a native American beauty pageant because their entire race and culture was pretty much completely wiped out by white people, and this could be seen as someone trying to take yet another thing from them.
Japan doesn't have that history with white people, so that comparison with Native Americans simply does not stand, and trying to make it stand is kinda belittling to the native Americans.