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What the fuck are you talking about? (rule) (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Authoritarian communists. Think Stalinists, and people who support regimes like the CCP. The top left of the political compass.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Does the word Tankie comes from the tanks in tinnamen square?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago

The term "tankie" was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defense of the Soviet use of tanks to crush the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring uprising, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.[5][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

Tankie refers to the when Russia sent tanks in Hungary to stop them from setting up a communist government that didn't follow their particular communist ideology.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Sort of but the talkie part originated from a Russian invasion of some country

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Hungarian Revolution of 1956, which was crushed by Soviet tanks.

How ironic that Hungary is now Russia's pawn in the EU.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Another layer of irony, US conservatives love Viktor Orban of Hungary and even I had him speak at CPAC.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

A few days ago Hungary's minister of foreign affairs said that if Trump was president the war in Ukraine never would have happened because Putin feared Trump too much. What a fucking joke, can't decide which dick to suck.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's not much ironic considering how... fascism-leaning Hungary always was, historically. It was a large faction of Hungarian native politicians who invited Soviet intervention in the first place. The Hungarian secret service at the time also shot at protesters, which escalated the protests. Moscow at the time wasn't an entire culprit, that changed with 1968. But internal power struggle is at core of these interventions, to legitimise them Moscow needed collaborationists.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ironic since they running out of tanks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So should the opposite faction be called tractorie?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ox-cart Plowers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

A respectful answer that does delineate the shades of communism and shows education. Admirable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Except Russia and China aren’t even pretending ti be communist.

Russia is a christo fascist oligarchy.

And China is a corporatist authoritarian state.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

This doesn't stop tankies from being pro-Russia and pro-China. Modern tankies are absolutely happy with oligarchies and gigacorporations running the world, they just hate western society.

In essence, they worship authoritarianism rather than communism itself.

I'd say the difference between a tankie and a socialist is that a socialist wants equality and well-being for everyone and tankies just want people they don't like to die at the hands of an authoritarian regime, regardless of whether it's actually a communist regime.