this post was submitted on 21 Jan 2024
1026 points (97.2% liked)

politics

19089 readers
3997 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Do you want a Federal government that has control over everything?

I mean, it sounds great when you agree with the Federal goverment I guess, but people should focus more on their own local and state governments.

Those governments dont make as dramatic of TV though. So where peoples votes really count the most, most people aren't paying attention.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It blows my mind that people are clamoring for a stronger federal government a mere 3 years after trump left office and demonstrated why that's a horrible idea

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, when I talk to people about politics, mainly online, it seems like everyone is reciting things theyv heard/read without critical thinking.

Giving all the power to people that line up with your beliefs in office sounds nice, until they ban abortions and have gun classes for kindergarteners next election.

We need checks and balances to work, and local => state => federal is a real important part of that. I 100% believe we should be taking as much power back from the federal government as possible, while still staying the United States. They hoarded power and turned that shit into a reality show

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

It's especially surprising on this topic. If the federal government had complete control like they're advocating, cannabis wouldn't be legal anywhere. Not even medical.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you want a Federal government that has control over everything?

That's mostly how it works up here in Canada. So, feel free to compare and contrast.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know Canadians government system well, but I do know it would be comparing to a completely different system. Either way, I'm sure there are benefits and drawbacks.

But in the last few decades, America has funneled more power to the President and the Federal government and I don't believe the government version of "trickle-down economics" is the right approach. For example, imagine a Republican held Federal government having authority over California. I don't think that'd have a positive outcome for the Californians.

Our local/state government is a solid structure, but my city of more than 100k people had 8k votes last local election. People should focus on local as much as they do federal, and I bet a lot more people would be happy with the governing of their area.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Canada's government is essentially 15 people, elected from the total population of the country, all 427 people, and they cross-country ski or snowshoe out to a big igloo-like capitol building with one medium sized conference room table inside, where they hold committee-style meetings and talk about what needs to be done, such as codifying new words for snow, I assume.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

so you would rather be born in a random State and just hope you win the geographic lottery and have good laws? forgot just need to vote better

yes want a unified set of standards we all have to play by and not have to worry if I crossed the wrong state line would be nice

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

So you would have been happy if the trump administration had had significantly more power, then?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

A unified set of standards that you like though, right? Not what the people you disagree with like? I have to assume you don't want Republican law choices to control every state.

United States was based of the idea of local and state governments united under a federal government, not dictated by that government. It's funny how in the 90s the New World Order was a huge fear, but but slowly seems like people online are leaning towards it now.