▲ 194 ▼ Is jellyfish vegan? (lemmy.world) submitted 3 years ago by Cortell@lemmy.world to c/nostupidquestions@lemmy.world 268 comments fedilink hide all child comments They don’t have a brain really and kinda just float there. Do they even feel pain?
[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 13 points 3 years ago (5 children) Plants are also living creatures, but don't tell the Vegans. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] FermatsLastAccount@kbin.social 67 points 3 years ago (2 children) If you want to minimize plant death, going vegan is still the right move. Most of the crops we grow go to feeding animals that people eat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LegendOfZelda@kbin.social 21 points 3 years ago This is definitely the best take on veganism. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world -26 points 3 years ago I don't really care about minimizing plant death. I'm not Vegan or Vegetarian, nor will I be in the future. I just made a joke. permalink fedilink source parent [–] jeffw@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (2 children) They told me Lemmy would be more leftist, why am I still seeing 0 IQ vegan jokes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Carnists are grappling with cognitive dissonance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How did you find this year old post lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Thanks to the advanced Voyager search allowing me to find the key word vegan to do some online activism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheMauveAvenger@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's lemmy.ml. I think most of us just want this to be a place with less politics and extremism on either side because it's exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) What's more extreme: not wanting to harm and exploit animals or killing and exploiting them to use them as products? I think it's pretty clear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago* (2 children) The former, by definition, because the vast majority of society does the latter. Extremists always try to reframe themselves as the moderate ones and say mainstream society are the extremists instead, so I'm not surprised you're saying this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just because it's always said doesn't mean it isn't sometimes true. Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? Yes, I can, but I can't think of any that were extreme despite being the most widely held views in a given society, because that's an oxymoron. Once something becomes a widely held view it is no longer extreme. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Using violence towards the animals is extremist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _finger_@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago We want to be rid of the poop wars permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnalogyAddict@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Plants also react to being harmed, so it's arguable they don't feel pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember reading that some species of plants release a specific chemical or audio frequency (I can't remember which) in response to being cut down, and this chemical is detected by other nearby plants that cause them to become stiffer or something along those lines. Whether that meana the plants feel pain or not, there isn't anything conclusive. I think it would be pretty hard to feel pain without a nervous system, but its possible that what constitutes pain doesn't need a nervous system or pain receptors at all. Im not a scientific expert, I just tried to be funny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Dunno about funny, but insightful and empathetic, yes. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent [–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago People from Vega will object to that. permalink fedilink source parent [+] merde@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 years ago (3 children) plants are not "creatures", neither are animals. both are indeed living evolutures ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] hglman@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) Do you often write in HTML? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago there was something wrong about formatting. Without the HTML code my lines were all huddled into one long line 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent [–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) How would you define creature? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oSillyScope@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) The word creature is theistic. The person you're responding to is being pedantic, but isn't wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Thank you for the definition. I think it is wrong. But i appreciate it nonetheless. My reasoning is that, while it may have started as a theistic word, it isn’t anymore. When someone says it i don’t think “a creation of God” i just think of like, an animal. Definitions change over time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago thank you :) permalink fedilink source parent [+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] such_lettuce7970@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) This fact is extremely inconvenient to vegans. A person who eats meat is responsible for more plant consumption than a person who eats vegan. Livestock don't live on sunshine and air you know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The only true way is to live exclusively off of mushrooms or mushroom fed livestock. That way NO plants will be harmed. (The fungus deserves it, so no moral compunctions) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hobo@lzrprt.sbs 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I always remember that plant in Japan that was hooked up to a computer that would get sad if no one talked to it, but will be full of excited energy anytime someone spoke to it. Now I apologise to a tree if I need to take a leak on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) do you know what anthropomorphism is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hobo@lzrprt.sbs 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah I do, I anthropomorphise everything lol, I apologized to my door for bumping it with my wood trollie yesterday. It might not have feelings, but I do and I felt bad. permalink fedilink source parent [+] merde@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) my comment was about the word "creature" which implies a creator. It's understandable that it may be difficult to classify living beings if the criteria is "behavior" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think anyone other than you thinks the word "creature" implies a creator, so you making that distinction really only gives power to creationists rather than taking it away. Moreover, even if it does come from creatura, the argument can easily be made that creatures beget (create) other creatures. It seems a very silly and tenuous thing to suddenly muddle a conversation over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago how do you know what everyone thinks? "beget" doesn't mean "create". i don't muddle the conversation. Creationism is related fundamentally to any conversation about vegetarianism, veganism, speciesism &c. Ask Abraham. He knows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FermatsLastAccount@kbin.social 67 points 3 years ago (2 children) If you want to minimize plant death, going vegan is still the right move. Most of the crops we grow go to feeding animals that people eat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] LegendOfZelda@kbin.social 21 points 3 years ago This is definitely the best take on veganism. permalink fedilink source parent [+] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world -26 points 3 years ago I don't really care about minimizing plant death. I'm not Vegan or Vegetarian, nor will I be in the future. I just made a joke. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LegendOfZelda@kbin.social 21 points 3 years ago This is definitely the best take on veganism. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world -26 points 3 years ago I don't really care about minimizing plant death. I'm not Vegan or Vegetarian, nor will I be in the future. I just made a joke. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 21 points 3 years ago (2 children) They told me Lemmy would be more leftist, why am I still seeing 0 IQ vegan jokes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Carnists are grappling with cognitive dissonance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How did you find this year old post lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Thanks to the advanced Voyager search allowing me to find the key word vegan to do some online activism. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheMauveAvenger@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's lemmy.ml. I think most of us just want this to be a place with less politics and extremism on either side because it's exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) What's more extreme: not wanting to harm and exploit animals or killing and exploiting them to use them as products? I think it's pretty clear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago* (2 children) The former, by definition, because the vast majority of society does the latter. Extremists always try to reframe themselves as the moderate ones and say mainstream society are the extremists instead, so I'm not surprised you're saying this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just because it's always said doesn't mean it isn't sometimes true. Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? Yes, I can, but I can't think of any that were extreme despite being the most widely held views in a given society, because that's an oxymoron. Once something becomes a widely held view it is no longer extreme. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Using violence towards the animals is extremist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _finger_@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago We want to be rid of the poop wars permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Carnists are grappling with cognitive dissonance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How did you find this year old post lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Thanks to the advanced Voyager search allowing me to find the key word vegan to do some online activism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) How did you find this year old post lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Thanks to the advanced Voyager search allowing me to find the key word vegan to do some online activism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Thanks to the advanced Voyager search allowing me to find the key word vegan to do some online activism. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheMauveAvenger@lemmy.world -2 points 3 years ago (2 children) That's lemmy.ml. I think most of us just want this to be a place with less politics and extremism on either side because it's exhausting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) What's more extreme: not wanting to harm and exploit animals or killing and exploiting them to use them as products? I think it's pretty clear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago* (2 children) The former, by definition, because the vast majority of society does the latter. Extremists always try to reframe themselves as the moderate ones and say mainstream society are the extremists instead, so I'm not surprised you're saying this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just because it's always said doesn't mean it isn't sometimes true. Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? Yes, I can, but I can't think of any that were extreme despite being the most widely held views in a given society, because that's an oxymoron. Once something becomes a widely held view it is no longer extreme. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Using violence towards the animals is extremist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] _finger_@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago We want to be rid of the poop wars permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 years ago (1 child) What's more extreme: not wanting to harm and exploit animals or killing and exploiting them to use them as products? I think it's pretty clear. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago* (2 children) The former, by definition, because the vast majority of society does the latter. Extremists always try to reframe themselves as the moderate ones and say mainstream society are the extremists instead, so I'm not surprised you're saying this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just because it's always said doesn't mean it isn't sometimes true. Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? Yes, I can, but I can't think of any that were extreme despite being the most widely held views in a given society, because that's an oxymoron. Once something becomes a widely held view it is no longer extreme. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Using violence towards the animals is extremist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago* (2 children) The former, by definition, because the vast majority of society does the latter. Extremists always try to reframe themselves as the moderate ones and say mainstream society are the extremists instead, so I'm not surprised you're saying this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Bolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just because it's always said doesn't mean it isn't sometimes true. Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? Yes, I can, but I can't think of any that were extreme despite being the most widely held views in a given society, because that's an oxymoron. Once something becomes a widely held view it is no longer extreme. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Using violence towards the animals is extremist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bolt@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) Just because it's always said doesn't mean it isn't sometimes true. Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? Yes, I can, but I can't think of any that were extreme despite being the most widely held views in a given society, because that's an oxymoron. Once something becomes a widely held view it is no longer extreme. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Ghostc1212@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 years ago Can't you think of examples of views that were fringe but became the moral baseline? Yes, I can, but I can't think of any that were extreme despite being the most widely held views in a given society, because that's an oxymoron. Once something becomes a widely held view it is no longer extreme. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 point 2 years ago Using violence towards the animals is extremist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _finger_@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago We want to be rid of the poop wars permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnalogyAddict@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) Plants also react to being harmed, so it's arguable they don't feel pain. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember reading that some species of plants release a specific chemical or audio frequency (I can't remember which) in response to being cut down, and this chemical is detected by other nearby plants that cause them to become stiffer or something along those lines. Whether that meana the plants feel pain or not, there isn't anything conclusive. I think it would be pretty hard to feel pain without a nervous system, but its possible that what constitutes pain doesn't need a nervous system or pain receptors at all. Im not a scientific expert, I just tried to be funny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Dunno about funny, but insightful and empathetic, yes. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I remember reading that some species of plants release a specific chemical or audio frequency (I can't remember which) in response to being cut down, and this chemical is detected by other nearby plants that cause them to become stiffer or something along those lines. Whether that meana the plants feel pain or not, there isn't anything conclusive. I think it would be pretty hard to feel pain without a nervous system, but its possible that what constitutes pain doesn't need a nervous system or pain receptors at all. Im not a scientific expert, I just tried to be funny. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Dunno about funny, but insightful and empathetic, yes. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago Dunno about funny, but insightful and empathetic, yes. Cheers! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MxM111@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago People from Vega will object to that. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] merde@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 years ago (3 children) plants are not "creatures", neither are animals. both are indeed living evolutures ;) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] hglman@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) Do you often write in HTML? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago there was something wrong about formatting. Without the HTML code my lines were all huddled into one long line 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent [–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) How would you define creature? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oSillyScope@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) The word creature is theistic. The person you're responding to is being pedantic, but isn't wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Thank you for the definition. I think it is wrong. But i appreciate it nonetheless. My reasoning is that, while it may have started as a theistic word, it isn’t anymore. When someone says it i don’t think “a creation of God” i just think of like, an animal. Definitions change over time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago thank you :) permalink fedilink source parent [+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] such_lettuce7970@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) This fact is extremely inconvenient to vegans. A person who eats meat is responsible for more plant consumption than a person who eats vegan. Livestock don't live on sunshine and air you know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The only true way is to live exclusively off of mushrooms or mushroom fed livestock. That way NO plants will be harmed. (The fungus deserves it, so no moral compunctions) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hobo@lzrprt.sbs 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I always remember that plant in Japan that was hooked up to a computer that would get sad if no one talked to it, but will be full of excited energy anytime someone spoke to it. Now I apologise to a tree if I need to take a leak on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) do you know what anthropomorphism is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hobo@lzrprt.sbs 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah I do, I anthropomorphise everything lol, I apologized to my door for bumping it with my wood trollie yesterday. It might not have feelings, but I do and I felt bad. permalink fedilink source parent [+] merde@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) my comment was about the word "creature" which implies a creator. It's understandable that it may be difficult to classify living beings if the criteria is "behavior" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think anyone other than you thinks the word "creature" implies a creator, so you making that distinction really only gives power to creationists rather than taking it away. Moreover, even if it does come from creatura, the argument can easily be made that creatures beget (create) other creatures. It seems a very silly and tenuous thing to suddenly muddle a conversation over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago how do you know what everyone thinks? "beget" doesn't mean "create". i don't muddle the conversation. Creationism is related fundamentally to any conversation about vegetarianism, veganism, speciesism &c. Ask Abraham. He knows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) Do you often write in HTML? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago there was something wrong about formatting. Without the HTML code my lines were all huddled into one long line 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 years ago there was something wrong about formatting. Without the HTML code my lines were all huddled into one long line 🤷 permalink fedilink source parent
[–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago (1 child) How would you define creature? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oSillyScope@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) The word creature is theistic. The person you're responding to is being pedantic, but isn't wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Thank you for the definition. I think it is wrong. But i appreciate it nonetheless. My reasoning is that, while it may have started as a theistic word, it isn’t anymore. When someone says it i don’t think “a creation of God” i just think of like, an animal. Definitions change over time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago thank you :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oSillyScope@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) The word creature is theistic. The person you're responding to is being pedantic, but isn't wrong. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Thank you for the definition. I think it is wrong. But i appreciate it nonetheless. My reasoning is that, while it may have started as a theistic word, it isn’t anymore. When someone says it i don’t think “a creation of God” i just think of like, an animal. Definitions change over time. permalink fedilink source parent [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 years ago thank you :) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Thank you for the definition. I think it is wrong. But i appreciate it nonetheless. My reasoning is that, while it may have started as a theistic word, it isn’t anymore. When someone says it i don’t think “a creation of God” i just think of like, an animal. Definitions change over time. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] marmo7ade@lemmy.world -6 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] such_lettuce7970@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) This fact is extremely inconvenient to vegans. A person who eats meat is responsible for more plant consumption than a person who eats vegan. Livestock don't live on sunshine and air you know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The only true way is to live exclusively off of mushrooms or mushroom fed livestock. That way NO plants will be harmed. (The fungus deserves it, so no moral compunctions) permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hobo@lzrprt.sbs 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I always remember that plant in Japan that was hooked up to a computer that would get sad if no one talked to it, but will be full of excited energy anytime someone spoke to it. Now I apologise to a tree if I need to take a leak on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) do you know what anthropomorphism is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hobo@lzrprt.sbs 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah I do, I anthropomorphise everything lol, I apologized to my door for bumping it with my wood trollie yesterday. It might not have feelings, but I do and I felt bad. permalink fedilink source parent [+] merde@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) my comment was about the word "creature" which implies a creator. It's understandable that it may be difficult to classify living beings if the criteria is "behavior" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think anyone other than you thinks the word "creature" implies a creator, so you making that distinction really only gives power to creationists rather than taking it away. Moreover, even if it does come from creatura, the argument can easily be made that creatures beget (create) other creatures. It seems a very silly and tenuous thing to suddenly muddle a conversation over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago how do you know what everyone thinks? "beget" doesn't mean "create". i don't muddle the conversation. Creationism is related fundamentally to any conversation about vegetarianism, veganism, speciesism &c. Ask Abraham. He knows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] such_lettuce7970@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (1 child) This fact is extremely inconvenient to vegans. A person who eats meat is responsible for more plant consumption than a person who eats vegan. Livestock don't live on sunshine and air you know. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The only true way is to live exclusively off of mushrooms or mushroom fed livestock. That way NO plants will be harmed. (The fungus deserves it, so no moral compunctions) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 4 points 3 years ago The only true way is to live exclusively off of mushrooms or mushroom fed livestock. That way NO plants will be harmed. (The fungus deserves it, so no moral compunctions) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hobo@lzrprt.sbs 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) I always remember that plant in Japan that was hooked up to a computer that would get sad if no one talked to it, but will be full of excited energy anytime someone spoke to it. Now I apologise to a tree if I need to take a leak on it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) do you know what anthropomorphism is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hobo@lzrprt.sbs 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah I do, I anthropomorphise everything lol, I apologized to my door for bumping it with my wood trollie yesterday. It might not have feelings, but I do and I felt bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) do you know what anthropomorphism is? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hobo@lzrprt.sbs 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah I do, I anthropomorphise everything lol, I apologized to my door for bumping it with my wood trollie yesterday. It might not have feelings, but I do and I felt bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hobo@lzrprt.sbs 6 points 3 years ago* Yeah I do, I anthropomorphise everything lol, I apologized to my door for bumping it with my wood trollie yesterday. It might not have feelings, but I do and I felt bad. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] merde@sh.itjust.works -6 points 3 years ago (1 child) my comment was about the word "creature" which implies a creator. It's understandable that it may be difficult to classify living beings if the criteria is "behavior" permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think anyone other than you thinks the word "creature" implies a creator, so you making that distinction really only gives power to creationists rather than taking it away. Moreover, even if it does come from creatura, the argument can easily be made that creatures beget (create) other creatures. It seems a very silly and tenuous thing to suddenly muddle a conversation over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago how do you know what everyone thinks? "beget" doesn't mean "create". i don't muddle the conversation. Creationism is related fundamentally to any conversation about vegetarianism, veganism, speciesism &c. Ask Abraham. He knows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sentrovasi@kbin.social 4 points 3 years ago (1 child) I don't think anyone other than you thinks the word "creature" implies a creator, so you making that distinction really only gives power to creationists rather than taking it away. Moreover, even if it does come from creatura, the argument can easily be made that creatures beget (create) other creatures. It seems a very silly and tenuous thing to suddenly muddle a conversation over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merde@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago how do you know what everyone thinks? "beget" doesn't mean "create". i don't muddle the conversation. Creationism is related fundamentally to any conversation about vegetarianism, veganism, speciesism &c. Ask Abraham. He knows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 years ago how do you know what everyone thinks? "beget" doesn't mean "create". i don't muddle the conversation. Creationism is related fundamentally to any conversation about vegetarianism, veganism, speciesism &c. Ask Abraham. He knows. permalink fedilink source parent