submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world
 

EDIT: since apparently a bunch of people woke up with the wrong foot this morning or forgot to check the group they’re in:

This is a joke. Do not steal or vandalize speed enforcement cameras (or anything else for that matter). That’s against the law and you will likely get arrested.

If you’re addicted to crack or any other drugs, please seek professional help.

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[–] 6 points 2 years ago (11 children)

% of salary

If you're going to issue fines for speeding, this is the most just way to do it though.

We'll never do that in the US because we hate the poor.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (5 children)

    The minimum cost of a speeding ticket in Finland is €125 which is closer to an average American speeding ticket, not the minimum.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago* (4 children)

    So what's the point? How does this not make it more equitable to adjust it by income from there? That's still extremely more equitable than our wildly unjust system that's only designed to punish the poor.

    Edit: Also, that's totally wrong. If I convert euros to USD, then that's ~$135, which is way less than an average speeding ticket in the US. Last one I had was more than $200, and that was in 2010. You're wrong.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago* (3 children)

    Weirdly confrontational?

    https://auto.howstuffworks.com/under-the-hood/cost-of-car-ownership/cost-of-speeding-ticket.htm

    Average ticket is 150 in America, which is pretty close to 135.

    So a speeding ticket in Finland likely wouldn't benefit poor people, but it would hurt rich people more.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    I'm in the lower income bracket, and I haven't had one that low since the 90s. That figure must be skewed by places like Nowhereville where the police are so corrupt that they issue $10 tickets to family members or something, because $150 is not a realistic figure for most people. I bet if we looked into that, we'd find some really creative methodology.

    $150? Ain't no way...

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (4 children)

    It's only % of salary (day fines) for more severe offenses, in this case for really speeding. Normal speeding tickets are just a set sum.

    Here's a pic showing the amounts. It has the speed limit, how much over the limit you were and how much you end up paying as a fine. Bottom one is "regardless of the limit" and "over 20 km/h", so whenever you go over by over 20 km/h, you pay "day fines".

    speeding ticket prices

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I agree it would be more just if it were all based on income, but even this:

    It’s only % of salary (day fines) for more severe offenses, in this case for really speeding

    ...is far more just than here in the US where income is never considered.

    So my statement is still accurate. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. Perhaps you can explain?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Friend, I'm just trying to be helpful and note that it's not all speeding tickets.

    What's up with people online thinking everything is an argument lol

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  • [–] 1 point 2 years ago (1 child)

    The real problem is that people want to argue technicalities that deflect from the main point. For people who aren't paying attention, they might come across this and think, "Oh, well I guess the US system isn't so unjust after all."

    The Finnish system is probably inequitable, too! But it's objectively not as inequitable as the US system, at least not where traffic fines are concerned. There's nuance.

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