It's so weird because r/modcoord is the place to be when talking about reddit blackout, it's where people get info on what's happening, what to do, and how to move on, but then now it's back to business. The reddit blackout sure give me a clearer perspective on why a lot of boycott fail.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 9 months ago

Reddit made it pretty clear pretty quickly they weren't going to change their minds, so mods either put their money where their mouths were and left Reddit, or became scabs. It's only the scabs that'd still be visiting /r/modcoord.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Imo, the boycott failed when mods of popular subreddits caved to demands and decided to reopen.

As soon as they reopened, reddit was back in business. The mods tried to pass it off as "well we're going to protest within the rules of Reddit" by doing shit like only post John Oliver or really childish shit.

It was funny but still childish.

Mods had power because they were united and reddit couldn't replace all of them at once. Instead, they picked them off one by one.

I really wanted the blackout to work. And it could have. But when the mods caved, reddit won.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you and me came here because of the api thing, we won. Reddit doesn't know what they're missing cus we're cool and great

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

It's great because folks here give a shit.

And if you want to get a hold of a mod or a admin/sysop, you can.

We're all just users, trying to make this place the best we can. ❤️

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Mods had power because they were united and reddit couldn’t replace all of them at once. Instead, they picked them off one by one.

My guess is that they decided that the little fictitious power that they had over their communities was worth dealing with an obnoxious administration, that outright belittles them as "landed gentry". As such, they never actually planned any sort of migration out of Reddit, and instead rationalised their decision to stay there as "we're thinking on the users".

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'd have to check, but I think even during the protest there were some issues around modcoord. The users in control seemed to be recommending against Lemmy and for Kbin (or some other thing that never took off), and removing comments that disagreed.

Meanwhile Lemmy and Kbin have been coexisting amicably lol

So now that Lemmy/Kbin have settled in as the key alternatives, they are clamping down harder?

Edit: Interesting, I had some details off but it looks like the user who pushed for Kbin is the one making this thread. Nice to see that the user is open minded

Now, I want to make a bold statement: I think Lemmy is the best alternative to Reddit, and the most likely to compete with it, even though it has a long way to go against Reddit itself. I used to be a Lemmy supporter, but then I moved to Kbin and recommended others to do the same, after learning about the problematic political views of Lemmy’s developers, especially regarding human rights and such. But I realized later that this was a misunderstanding on my part, and that this is not an issue as long as the project is open source, with an open development, and as long as you avoid instances like lemmygrad. Most instances, like lemmy.world (which is also the biggest Lemmy instance), are not run by them and do not share their views. Lemmy’s developers also clarified that their personal views will not affect the platform itself.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Rust is just a better technology than PHP.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I love lemmygrad! I can see different povs than the western centric l ones we get.

As far as i know they haven't yet destroyed my mind comrade (oops!) Uh oh...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't love lemmygrad but I love that it exists. I don't mind hearing differing opinions, quite the opposite; I welcome it. Probably an unpopular opinion but I wouldn't mind having more right-wingers here aswell. The only thing I have an issue with regarding groups like this is the trolling.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don’t mind hearing differing opinions, quite the opposite; I welcome it.

Indeed, though i disagree with you that i want more right-wingers here lol. Im happy to have left that noise on reddit. Can't you hear them off in the distance? strains to hear

rabblerabblerabblerabblerablerabblerabblerabble

Yup, they're still at it!

Jokes aside i actually like going to them for the explicit purpose of destroying my biases and bad arguments. Other people's biases are easier to see than one's own i figure, but i know i have them, right? I have to. Everyone does.

I go on FOX news too, and see the way they "frame" things because it's easier to see when they're saying things i disagree with.

Watching FOX and then other, more 'left wing news'sources has been tremendously helpful to me, because i notice the "framing" trick when they employ it too. I really hate when anyone attempts to manipulate my emotion for what i assume is their gain, so i put in the work to avoid it if i can.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Figuring this shit out is a lot of work to be honest. Even a truthful source can be misleading as hell by omitting important context. Just like for hardware review, or video game review, or whatever, I try to find someone whose reporting omit nothing on some stuff I heavily researched (it's rare), and only then I feel comfortable weighting in their report on the stuff I know less about.

On the other hand, a lot of people just eat everything up from some random source they grew up with because the alternative is a lot of work, mentally and emotionally.

That being said, there is a certain point where listening to those people's opinions stop being fruitful. Hence, I don't really care about any extremist views in places like Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Figuring this shit out is a lot of work to be honest.

You said it man, it's tiring as shit. I do it anyway, fueled by spite an a hatred of being lied to