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Man everything is political these days
Always has been.
I don't know any one who actively seeks out the political belives of the creators/hosts of the shows they watch even though the show itself has nothing to do with politics.
K, you should. To make sure you're not supporting a piece of shit by giving them your time, clicks, and views. But you do you if you're okay supporting potential bigots.
It's not even a high effort task, just find the name of the podcast and add "political leanings" or something similar in the web search. It's the minimal effort required to be an informed consumer.
Most of my life we never cared about this kind of stuff unless someone was leading black shirts though the streets. We listened to what they had to say about the topic in question and moved on.
You just described privilege very nicely, well done. Other people have to care about this stuff or we lose human rights.
How did that turn out? haha
Pretty well until everyone went mental in the 2010s on both sides.
Lmao, I knew it was coming.
Look, I have no time for bigotry, but you can't deny there was also a time a few years back where progressives were going ott declaring everyone and everything problematic in some way and making itbalmost embarrassing to be part of the left. That admittedly seems to have settled now and it's the right that are going too far. Not being able to criticise your own side when they're going too far isn't mature politics.
you sound like this guy
Yes, because as a man of Jewish heritage I absolutely love Nazis don't I?
I have no time for Nazis and the far right, I have very little time for the centre right in most cases either. However PR is a thing and you have to recognise when you're alienating people rather than winning them over.
i'm sorry but i sincerely don't care. it makes no difference to me what you look like or whether you do or don't like Nazis―you've had two interactions today and both times you've sounded indistinguishable from the cringe white centrist-to-chud in the comic who thinks Both Sides Are The Same and is mad society isn't catering to them anymore. as far as i'm concerned, you're that guy until you demonstrate otherwise.
The complacency that the left was calling out AKA "declaring everything problematic" and people like you not taking that seriously is exactly why we have seen a rise in "the right going too far."
Let me leave with you a quote from MLK:
Your attitude screams of being a moderate, and I beg you rethink that attitude.
Because of people who thought liberals ask for too much and go too far, we have lost our right to abortion and now we have laws in most non liberal states trying to ban people from being who they want to be based on their gender. These are a direct result of the people liberals were screaming about being complacent and being the "white moderate" as MLK describes above.
Yeah, I don't live in the US.
Oh, contraire.
There's a lot to unpack there, but I'm not gonna.
Who was insinuating that progressives can't be criticized? Where did that line come from? We're talking about doing research into your podcasters and content creators to make sure that they support human rights, that's it.
Now if you don't do thorough research on the political leanings of the people whose content you consume, some people will call you bigot.
Who called you a bigot?
My comment:
Idk how to address this without being snarky, but maybe work on reading comprehension. I'm calling the podcasters you don't research potential bigots, not even bigots, potential bigots. Which is to say I'm not condemning them or you to being bigots but you don't know whether they are or not without researching it, therefore they are potential bigots. You are not a bigot, the podcasters you don't research are potential bigots.
I wasn't just taking about people in this perticular thread.
So you're saying you get called a bigot a lot in other conversations?
You do you ig.
The kind of people who have to deal with those shows that have "nothing to do with politics" randomly indicating that they deny that person's human rights.
And the kind of people who care about the first category.
I kind of get what you're saying, but what you might be missing is that we are long past the point where politics is just a disagreement on how to achieve the same general goal. The mainstream GOP is full on pro-bigotry, anti-freedom, and if not openly fascist, they sure do seem to do a lot of fascist-like things. This is not hyperbole.
Additionally, money is (and always has been) the lever to obtain power, so knowingly giving money (directly or indirectly) to a person who will use that money to promote or assist these kind of beliefs becomes a moral question, not a financial one. You may not want to believe it is so, but it is so.