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[-] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 years ago

My god. I'm not saying that Russia was provoked by the west. I'm saying is that those who saw the war coming didn't care and gave Ukraine a false sense of security by saying that they'll have protection. And once Russia attacked the help that the EU is providing is only enough to keep Russia at bay and not to actually push them back. And that this current state of the war is useful for both EU/NATO and the US. I feel like because I don't see it exactly the same way you do, you're lumping me with whoever else you don't agree with.

[-] takeda@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

No one was providing false sense of security for Ukraine. This was recorded in January, before the full invasion:

https://youtu.be/Q7CNgP7kmQE

The goal was to scare putin from invading in the first place. He even mentioned there that Russia will prevail, because no one expected they would do as well.

As for EU's help, you can thank Hungary for it, they block everything, including humanitarian help, EU countries are forced to provide help independently.

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