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Cloudflare Employee records her final meeting where HR tries to fire her (ody.sh)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I can’t give more approval for this woman, she handled everything so well.

The backstory is that Cloudflare overhired and wanted to reduce headcount, rightsize, whatever terrible HR wording you choose. Instead of admitting that this was a layoff, which would grant her things like severance and unemployment - they tried to tell her that her performance was lacking.

And for most of us (myself included) we would angrily accept it and trash the company online. Not her, she goes directly against them. It of course doesn’t go anywhere because HR is a bunch of robots with no emotions that just parrot what papa company tells them to, but she still says what all of us wish we did.

(Warning, if you've ever been laid off this is a bit enraging and can bring up some feelings)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Pretty good, although really difficult to vocalize under stress. I'd say if you're given a chance to provide a written statement, there's a good opportunity to be precise like this.

Also, as an aside, many states have laws about recording conversations. Some require consent of all parties, some two, some one (yourself). And almost all require consent before the action. I feel like if you ask, they will say no, and you'll get an overnight letter letting you know about your termination.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

While they can totally do that in some states (like where I live in California) that letter/email/alternate contact doesn't absolve them from having to prove they did their due diligence in warning you and trying to fix your performance

You are fully within your rights to demand that proof from them and to not let up, though talking to a lawyer immediately is probably the wisest move. And by immediately I mean when they say "no" to the recording

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Generally virtual meetings in companies like these are being recorded anyway, so there was likely a prompt before joining that everyone got.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

100% on the recording, fair pt.

On the letter: that'd be good - go ahead and give me written evidence...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

You get the letter either way, in my experience.