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[–] [email protected] 132 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't think we need to be worried about full-blown civil war, but preparing for an increase in stochastic terrorism probably isn't the worst idea.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Climate change will create food and water scarcity. Their life or yours.

Idk man. I've been having some huge existential crisis lately and climate change and destruction is just flooding my brain.

Anyone else or just me?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not me. There's nothing I can do to stop it and I refuse to bring kids into it. So my plan if things get really bad is to die and there's no sense worrying about that.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

there is nothing I can do to stop it

Wtf. Drive/fly less and bike/walk more. Take the train/collective transport. And if that's too troublesome for you at least vote for politicians who care about climate change and are willing to actually do stuff.

So my plan if things get really bad is to die and there's no sense of worrying about that.

And please that's just so fucking selfish. Even if you don't get any kids there are still people who will have to live with the climate change that you created. For example I and all of my friends, cousins, classmates, etc will have to live with the consequences of climate change.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's a mountain of assumptions and frankly insufficient attempts to feel like you can make an impact. The literal best way for a person to reduce ecological impact is to not exist.

Secondly, having someone exist for you even if their existence is pure misery is the most selfish thing. It's my body and it's my choice. Anyone who says different is someone who feels entitled to keeping me around regardless of what I want.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say you're depressed and suicidal. If so, I am sorry for what you're going through and hope you find some way to improve your life and get better.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Not really? Like there are moments but I'm talking about if or when things fall apart I don't care to keep trying. It's not because of depression that I'd be ok with death but because I'm not scared to die but I am scared to suffer every day.

I don't think depression has the monopoly on desiring death over suffering.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"Living is just a promise that I made"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

While I'm all in favour of individual action, I think it's very reductive to say that that will stop climate change. And even the politicians we explicitly vote for to actually do things don't, or not enough. And it's not like we chose to live in a world that is being destroyed by climate change, so how is it selfish if we leave behind other people who also do? They created it as much as me - barely, because none of us have any real recourse to deal with it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Haven't stopped planning for retirement and all that jazz but at this point it's just theater.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If you're not white, straight, and a guy, I'd also recommend updating your passports and maybe arming yourselves. It's gonna be a bumpy year.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I can't really imagine danger being particularly extreme for anyone other than trans people, for trans folk updating passports is likely a good idea. But keep in mind that blue states would still be relatively safe.

If shit truly gets to the point where it's death squads and fascist street gangs, realistically there would not be anywhere in the world that would be safe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

“Blue states” are states with notable swaths of intolerant people spread out over the majority of the state, with a lot of tolerant people and allies condensed into cities.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Really? Other groups besides trans people certainly have a lot to fear in my state: I can predict immigrants, Black people, Native Americans, gay people, non-Christians, and anyone who positions themselves as allies, off the top of my head.

Not sure where you live, but the fascism is feeling pretty full-blown around my parts lately.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What can a straight, white guy do to prepare?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Rat out your neighbors to the police.

Well, since the police would be on it like maybe the national guard?

I don't know, just be prepared to cap somebody in the name of equality.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Same thing. Be vigilant. Prepare for what's going to go down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Be straighter and whiter, I guess