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Israel has historically wiped the floor with most of these countries even without us aid.
Never forget they had like 5 countries try to invade in the war of 1948 and they fought back each one and in many cases conquered territory. (Example they had part of Egypt etc and gave it back).
Granted things have changed a bit but they still maintain a fairly significant military force.
They aren't really worried.
Israel has never been alone since the day it became a nation.
Where are these quotes from?
I put the source after each quote.
Hmm. My Memmy app doesn’t have the hyperlink. All I see is the word “Source” which sucks I guess lol
Oh, sorry about that. Here they are in order.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/history-us-support-israel-runs-deep-growing-chorus/story?id=104957109
https://www.marketplace.org/2023/10/23/a-look-at-the-history-of-u-s-aid-to-israel/
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-aid-spending-israel-military-defense-gaza-war-2023-10?op=1&r=US&IR=T
I was specifically curious about the first source as I have heard from other sources (namely Behind the Bastards) that the US initially did not care much for Israel, the Soviets helped more, and it wasn’t until the early 60s after an aggressive lobbying campaign was Israel a solid US ally.
The Wikipedia page on the 1948 Arab-Israeli war has this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War
And later:
Which suggests that initially the US government did not support Israel as the ABC article suggests. The reporting seems to get around the factual claims by just quoting their source, but I think that “Democrats for Israel” dude is stretching his historical claims.
America has had some issues with Israel over the years, but for the most part the US has backed it almost fully since its inception.
CNN has a well-rounded synopsis (link below) that shows both the good and not-so-good history between the two nations.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/11/politics/presidents-israel-cnn/index.html
Thank you!
All good. :)
They're not worried but they pump out enough propaganda about how they are constantly threatened with annihilation.
Tbf Israel is surrounded by nations who would be happy if it were wiped off the face of the earth ... so Israel isn't totally lying here.
The problem is Palestinians have an absolute right to live there as well, but Israel has become like the spoiled child who's been given everything without understanding the need to play nice with others. And Netanyahu is the epitome of a sneaky conniving asshole who never should have been leader.
Fair point. The two state solution is dead though. Israels apartheid system needs to be dismantled. Palestinians should have full civil rights and freedom of movement.
I hope you're wrong about the death of the 2-state solution.
I suspect we'll find out soon if Biden is willing to put the brakes on Netanyahi and Israel's right-wing coalitions tho.
Why? 2 state solution would have been a disaster. It would have created a Palestinian Bantustan fully under Israel's economic and military control. The just solution is one state with equality for all.
Israel will never agree to a one-nation state with 100% Palestinian equality.
A 2-nation state with Palestinians in control of their own water, electric and land resources - without Israel's incursions on or in Palestinian affairs - is a fair and equitable solution.
Rabin and Carter were close to that with the Oslo Accords, but Rabin's assassination shut it down.
Israel will never agree to a two state solution either. We already have a de facto one state solution. Israel just needs international pressure to dismantle apartheid and recognise civil rights for Palestinians as Israeli Arabs already enjoy. This could be done gradually starting with peaceful areas of the West Bank and rolling out to the rest of the Occupied Territories.