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Every time I'm trying to decide what new show I should check out (i.imgur.com)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She is! Always wondered why she got so much hate in the community. Not as much as Archer did though. Which is also great IMHO.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Janeway didn't get hate as much as it was criticism of the writers for making her inconsistent. One week it was "Prime directive no matter the consequences", the next was "Lets do whatever to make drama."

For all of Roddenberry's faults, his presence for the early years of TNG kept TNG consistent instead of allowing the writer of the week to change characters for their personal story. By the time he was gone, the formula was set such that writers wouldn't mess with characters.

Voyager has no singular authority so consistency of character was rare.

Edit: Except for Ensign Kim. He was born an Ensign and died one. Nobody messed with perfection.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

He was born an Ensign and died one.

Several times.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've actually come to think of Janeway as someone consistently written to be an inconsistent Captain, rather than 100% inconsistently written. Others are nowhere near as inconsistent as Janeway.

Once I started thinking of her inconsistency as being the result of trying to walk a tightrope of sticking to Starfleet ideals, as well as maintaining order in a demoralised crew in unfamiliar territory where they don't have the support and full might of the Federation and its allies behind them, Janeway's inconsistent and contradictory behaviour starts making a lot more sense and feels a lot more organic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

@TheGrandNagus Kinda makes sense that way. Flung into trouble because of her adherence to the Prime Directive, then had to do whatever it took to get the crew home... I'd waffle about, too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

You might be right, the inconsistency was well around. But it still was a good show. I always perceived her as a more "indecisive" captain. Or one being able to change her opinions. Whatever. It's what it is. The best female captain we had so far 😊