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The fall of Firefox: Mozilla's once-popular web browser slides into irrelevance (www.zdnet.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Article seems pretty flawed. Relevance is a vague metric, and the author relies pretty heavily on data related to government site visitation, which seems subject to bias toward certain types of users.

Market share is likely still incredibly low, but Firefox's relevance should be spiking right now due to Google's shenanigans with Chromium. The fact that like 90% of revenue for its for-profit wing is from Google is still troubling.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

IRC has no built-in support for replies, media (audio, video, stickers, reactions, custom emoji, etc.), threads, and encryption. It's barebones text with a bunch of cryptic slash commands on top of it - everything else is done by the client.

And pineapple news' UI is from another era. It's like looking at papyrus when you have Gutenberg's print.

To each their own, but the amount of people willing to use such outdated tech is dwindling.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

IRC has no built-in support for

And? It's a chat room, not a forum and emojis are a scourge upon the internet. And you're certainly more likely to get an answer than on stackoverflow...

And pineapple news’ UI is from another era. It’s like looking at papyrus when you have Gutenberg’s print.

It's BeOS' default tk, the point is the UX not lack of subpixel font rendering. Windows looked like this back in the days. And no I don't use it any more, haven't visited usenet in almost 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And? It’s a chat room, not a forum and emojis are a scourge upon the internet. And you’re certainly more likely to get an answer than on stackoverflow…

Just like not everything that's new is good, not everything that's old is good. There's a time and place for anything. The time and place for IRC is a museum IMO. You may disagree, but I disagree with you probably just as much that "emojis are a scourge upon the internet".

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's better protocols like PSYC, XMPP also supports chat. Never took off, though, because IRC is fine as a protocol: It doesn't do much, Latin-1/UTF-8 hybrid is nuts, but it works well enough for what people want from it: A water cooler. Go visit libera.chat, it's exactly what it is. What we got instead is discord, proving that people don't care about tech but fancy marketing and, allow me to be an old man shouting at internet clouds for a second, zoomers still know it from minecraft. Also presumably you aren't "professional" if you don't require an email address, the young'uns learned that from popups on blogspam sites.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

allow me to be an old man shouting at internet clouds for a second

Alright alright 😂