β² 407 βΌ Blackout is still on IGNORE THE FUD (lemmy.intai.tech) submitted 3 years ago by manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world 40 comments fedilink hide all child comments Important to remember only 3200 subs originally committed to the blackout. We had almost 3x that number join. More than 2x are still dark!
[+] kadu@lemmy.world 187 points 3 years ago (5 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 44 points 3 years ago (5 children) I really want to exclusively switch to Lemmy, but as it stands I'll probably end up starting to use Reddit again as soon as the the vast majority of the blackout ends (I'm not gonna give in easily, but once it's mostly over, there's no point in me continuing). The problem for me is that on Reddit even extremely niche communities had a substantial amount of members and activity, whereas Lemmy is smaller than Reddit, so everything scales down proportionally, meaning that suddenly communities that were niche on Reddit are infinitesimally tiny or even just absent on Lemmy. Like, there's no malazan community, elitedangerous and wheeloftime are dead, amiga is dead, and so on. I actually got a ton of extremely high quality, positive interaction on the subreddits I was on, because I almost entirely stayed away from the really popular subreddits, and I'm losing all that moving to here, where the popular communities have higher quality interaction but the smaller communities have way worse interaction. Also, Reddit is a massive treasure-trove of useful niche information for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] tryinghappy@lemmy.one 19 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah I might hop onto reddit on desktop only with an ad blocker JUST for the smaller interest based communities that took years to build up. But the big stuff like gaming or news? I'll be using this plus Mastodon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] RomeCallen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago ya i think that build up is important really if you can just get enough people over here, that shit starts to really ball up tho im also kinda into the small community thing, i would love to start recognizing UN like i did in older forum days permalink fedilink source parent [β] angrylittlekitty@lemmy.one 7 points 3 years ago I'm taking the same mindset - curating social media vs big gulping it. Thank you spez and elon for me reboot. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Rhaedas@lemmy.one 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) I can appreciate that. I would suggest do both - go back to the niche reddits while they work for you, and hopefully things don't get even worse to affect that. Meanwhile, check back to these newer alternatives often to see what's going on. Perhaps at some point you can either have both worlds or even finally transition away. You have to do what works for you in the end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 6 points 3 years ago Right now the baseball team specific subredditd are all I'm missing. I've strongly considered hosting a sport zone kbin instance once my financials look a little different permalink fedilink source parent [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 6 points 3 years ago Yup, that's kind of my plan permalink fedilink source parent [β] danomite@lemmy.world 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) When you go back you can gently encourage those folks to come here. If you aren't interested in modding a community here, you can ask the mods of those subreddits to start them. There's a lot of chatter about joining the fediverse in subs like /r/RedditAlternatives, but you don't see people talking about the selling points in those small subs. You can start those conversations. Maybe there's no takers, and that's fine. But if you like it here theres a good chance others will too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) βYouβre the worst social media Iβve ever heard ofβ βBut you have heard of meβ - Capt. Jack Lemming permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] boopinsnoots@feddit.nl 3 points 3 years ago Nah man, that goes to the short lived and hate filled Voat. permalink fedilink source parent [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 5 points 3 years ago That's a really good idea! If there's anything I feel I'm good at, it's communication, and selling people on ideas! permalink fedilink source parent [β] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) Same, I had a lot of hobby communities on reddit that I really enjoyed. I will probably use it when I want that experience while Lemmy grows. Hopefully one day, and with people like us' encouragement to migrate, Lemmy instances will have enough traffic to host these more niche groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I hope so! I'm definitely going to do my best to promote Lemmy on Reddit in those niche communities. I wish I had the time and personality to actually start the communities I want to see on Lemmy, but sadly I don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm trying to help get engagement in the WoT community! I just don't know what to post lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 4 points 3 years ago Me neither lol. Posting kind of only makes sense when you're currently reading/rereading the series,and I'm not right now, so it's hard to come up with content. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ironsoap@lemmy.one 7 points 3 years ago A digression, but it is the same high quality niche information that LLM's are after I believe. I'd be curious about what you think the trove's longevity in terms of relevance is? I ask as the more timeless it is the less chance it will be replaced, and the more valuable it is a s a learning resource. I woulad also agree that it makes sense to split your time, personally. I hope some of those communities begin to shift, but it is a idol dream. permalink fedilink source parent [β] DigiWolf@pawb.social 40 points 3 years ago Exactly. I donβt care about the blackout anymore. I want this to be the digg moment for Reddit, especially with how Spez is behaving towards his users which are transitively his content creators. The idea of a federated internet sounds a lot better anyways. permalink fedilink source parent [β] maporita@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 years ago Lemmy is more than worth it just for the lack of "he gets us" ads alone. permalink fedilink source parent [β] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) deleted by creator permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] kadu@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) Funny you should mention that, one of the first things I noticed on Lemmy is the culture on emojis, people like them. I for one am totally onboard π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 28 points 3 years ago (3 children) The emoji hating folks on reddit were a weird subculture. Acting like you're too mature for emojis is... Really immature imo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] eric5949@beehaw.org 11 points 3 years ago* They really be like "lmao emojis are childish Β―β \_β (β γβ )β _β /β Β―" permalink fedilink source parent [β] DigiWolf@pawb.social 10 points 3 years ago The reason for it is that emojis are very heavily used in conjunction with low quality content. Thatβs why the backlash was there. That and the people who litter their comments with dozens of them. Emojis are fine in moderation but Reddit just went 100% against permalink fedilink source parent [β] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Women tend to use emojis more and if there's one thing reddit hates it's women permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] alwaysconfused@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've always saw the bias against women on reddit until about a week ago when I got a chance to really understand that it's more like pure, unfiltered hate against women. I rarely post to social media because it's a huge energy drain on me but I decided to make a post on a support subreddit regarding toxic masculinity. I talked about how I was a target for bullying and harassment for not being 'manly' and shared experiences of witnessing gross and manipulative behaviour against women and lgbt+ people. I received a lot of positive feedback. Some men spoke up about seeing the same, unacceptable behaviour from their coworkers. Some women confirmed what I said was true and a few were happy just being validated. My post had to be removed because the moderator of that subreddit had been receiving threats about my post. My post didn't violate any of the reddit or the subreddit rules. Some very angry individuals who couldn't read the nuance in my post had claimed it was hate speech. The moderator contacted me and thanked me for talking about such topics. Ultimately she couldn't deal with the hate that was being directed at her, which I completely understand. That whole incident really opened my eyes to just how much hate women get on that site. Leaving reddit for good got so much easier after that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) One of my most down voted comments came when I said that feminism isn't anti man, it's pro woman, and in turn, pro everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 years ago* This is a really difficult topic though, because there is no one form of feminism. You got old school, where it was about basic rights (Right to vote, right to work, right to drive a car, ..) and then newer forms that might take things too far. One relatively current example: Feminists want that board members of large companies are at least 50% female. It sounds fair on the surface, but it really isn't. Because what happens when the number reaches 60%? 70%? Mission still accomplished, even though you just started to discriminate against men at that point instead of hiring based on merit. When it comes to universities we already have that situation. More women than men get higher degrees, but nobody is trying to push more men into nursing for example (which is 86% female dominated). The push only happens for STEM with female only scholarships and making it easier for women to get accepted into courses. But again, the goal is to get to 50%+, but nobody seems to care when the balance entirely tips to the other side. Same for dangerous jobs, 95% of oil rig drillers are male, but nobody pushes for more women in this job. Simply because it's dirty and hard work (though paid well). True equality would be to hire based on merit. Don't even put names and gender on applications for example. Everyone should get the same chances, same rights, same treatment as much as possible. If they can and want to do the work, they should have a crack at it. Favoritism only makes a mess. If you include a ratio of women vs men in a job and a capable woman gets it simply because they want to raise the ratio she'll still fight against prejudice that she only got the job because of her gender. That really helps no one. So personally I might agree with a lot of points of feminism, but I'd rather call myself an egalitarian. Can't we just treat everyone well? permalink fedilink source parent [β] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Man here. I love emojis, they are so cute π₯Ή permalink fedilink source parent [β] Celivalg@iusearchlinux.fyi 19 points 3 years ago Same feelings, however, I do want to watch it go down with popcorn, this amuses me greatly permalink fedilink source parent
[β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 44 points 3 years ago (5 children) I really want to exclusively switch to Lemmy, but as it stands I'll probably end up starting to use Reddit again as soon as the the vast majority of the blackout ends (I'm not gonna give in easily, but once it's mostly over, there's no point in me continuing). The problem for me is that on Reddit even extremely niche communities had a substantial amount of members and activity, whereas Lemmy is smaller than Reddit, so everything scales down proportionally, meaning that suddenly communities that were niche on Reddit are infinitesimally tiny or even just absent on Lemmy. Like, there's no malazan community, elitedangerous and wheeloftime are dead, amiga is dead, and so on. I actually got a ton of extremely high quality, positive interaction on the subreddits I was on, because I almost entirely stayed away from the really popular subreddits, and I'm losing all that moving to here, where the popular communities have higher quality interaction but the smaller communities have way worse interaction. Also, Reddit is a massive treasure-trove of useful niche information for me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] tryinghappy@lemmy.one 19 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah I might hop onto reddit on desktop only with an ad blocker JUST for the smaller interest based communities that took years to build up. But the big stuff like gaming or news? I'll be using this plus Mastodon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] RomeCallen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago ya i think that build up is important really if you can just get enough people over here, that shit starts to really ball up tho im also kinda into the small community thing, i would love to start recognizing UN like i did in older forum days permalink fedilink source parent [β] angrylittlekitty@lemmy.one 7 points 3 years ago I'm taking the same mindset - curating social media vs big gulping it. Thank you spez and elon for me reboot. permalink fedilink source parent [β] Rhaedas@lemmy.one 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) I can appreciate that. I would suggest do both - go back to the niche reddits while they work for you, and hopefully things don't get even worse to affect that. Meanwhile, check back to these newer alternatives often to see what's going on. Perhaps at some point you can either have both worlds or even finally transition away. You have to do what works for you in the end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 6 points 3 years ago Right now the baseball team specific subredditd are all I'm missing. I've strongly considered hosting a sport zone kbin instance once my financials look a little different permalink fedilink source parent [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 6 points 3 years ago Yup, that's kind of my plan permalink fedilink source parent [β] danomite@lemmy.world 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) When you go back you can gently encourage those folks to come here. If you aren't interested in modding a community here, you can ask the mods of those subreddits to start them. There's a lot of chatter about joining the fediverse in subs like /r/RedditAlternatives, but you don't see people talking about the selling points in those small subs. You can start those conversations. Maybe there's no takers, and that's fine. But if you like it here theres a good chance others will too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) βYouβre the worst social media Iβve ever heard ofβ βBut you have heard of meβ - Capt. Jack Lemming permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] boopinsnoots@feddit.nl 3 points 3 years ago Nah man, that goes to the short lived and hate filled Voat. permalink fedilink source parent [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 5 points 3 years ago That's a really good idea! If there's anything I feel I'm good at, it's communication, and selling people on ideas! permalink fedilink source parent [β] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) Same, I had a lot of hobby communities on reddit that I really enjoyed. I will probably use it when I want that experience while Lemmy grows. Hopefully one day, and with people like us' encouragement to migrate, Lemmy instances will have enough traffic to host these more niche groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I hope so! I'm definitely going to do my best to promote Lemmy on Reddit in those niche communities. I wish I had the time and personality to actually start the communities I want to see on Lemmy, but sadly I don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm trying to help get engagement in the WoT community! I just don't know what to post lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 4 points 3 years ago Me neither lol. Posting kind of only makes sense when you're currently reading/rereading the series,and I'm not right now, so it's hard to come up with content. permalink fedilink source parent [β] ironsoap@lemmy.one 7 points 3 years ago A digression, but it is the same high quality niche information that LLM's are after I believe. I'd be curious about what you think the trove's longevity in terms of relevance is? I ask as the more timeless it is the less chance it will be replaced, and the more valuable it is a s a learning resource. I woulad also agree that it makes sense to split your time, personally. I hope some of those communities begin to shift, but it is a idol dream. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] tryinghappy@lemmy.one 19 points 3 years ago (2 children) Yeah I might hop onto reddit on desktop only with an ad blocker JUST for the smaller interest based communities that took years to build up. But the big stuff like gaming or news? I'll be using this plus Mastodon. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] RomeCallen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago ya i think that build up is important really if you can just get enough people over here, that shit starts to really ball up tho im also kinda into the small community thing, i would love to start recognizing UN like i did in older forum days permalink fedilink source parent [β] angrylittlekitty@lemmy.one 7 points 3 years ago I'm taking the same mindset - curating social media vs big gulping it. Thank you spez and elon for me reboot. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] RomeCallen@lemmy.world 7 points 3 years ago ya i think that build up is important really if you can just get enough people over here, that shit starts to really ball up tho im also kinda into the small community thing, i would love to start recognizing UN like i did in older forum days permalink fedilink source parent
[β] angrylittlekitty@lemmy.one 7 points 3 years ago I'm taking the same mindset - curating social media vs big gulping it. Thank you spez and elon for me reboot. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Rhaedas@lemmy.one 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) I can appreciate that. I would suggest do both - go back to the niche reddits while they work for you, and hopefully things don't get even worse to affect that. Meanwhile, check back to these newer alternatives often to see what's going on. Perhaps at some point you can either have both worlds or even finally transition away. You have to do what works for you in the end. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 6 points 3 years ago Right now the baseball team specific subredditd are all I'm missing. I've strongly considered hosting a sport zone kbin instance once my financials look a little different permalink fedilink source parent [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 6 points 3 years ago Yup, that's kind of my plan permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 6 points 3 years ago Right now the baseball team specific subredditd are all I'm missing. I've strongly considered hosting a sport zone kbin instance once my financials look a little different permalink fedilink source parent
[β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 6 points 3 years ago Yup, that's kind of my plan permalink fedilink source parent
[β] danomite@lemmy.world 17 points 3 years ago (2 children) When you go back you can gently encourage those folks to come here. If you aren't interested in modding a community here, you can ask the mods of those subreddits to start them. There's a lot of chatter about joining the fediverse in subs like /r/RedditAlternatives, but you don't see people talking about the selling points in those small subs. You can start those conversations. Maybe there's no takers, and that's fine. But if you like it here theres a good chance others will too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) βYouβre the worst social media Iβve ever heard ofβ βBut you have heard of meβ - Capt. Jack Lemming permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] boopinsnoots@feddit.nl 3 points 3 years ago Nah man, that goes to the short lived and hate filled Voat. permalink fedilink source parent [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 5 points 3 years ago That's a really good idea! If there's anything I feel I'm good at, it's communication, and selling people on ideas! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) βYouβre the worst social media Iβve ever heard ofβ βBut you have heard of meβ - Capt. Jack Lemming permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] boopinsnoots@feddit.nl 3 points 3 years ago Nah man, that goes to the short lived and hate filled Voat. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] boopinsnoots@feddit.nl 3 points 3 years ago Nah man, that goes to the short lived and hate filled Voat. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 5 points 3 years ago That's a really good idea! If there's anything I feel I'm good at, it's communication, and selling people on ideas! permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.world 10 points 3 years ago (1 child) Same, I had a lot of hobby communities on reddit that I really enjoyed. I will probably use it when I want that experience while Lemmy grows. Hopefully one day, and with people like us' encouragement to migrate, Lemmy instances will have enough traffic to host these more niche groups. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I hope so! I'm definitely going to do my best to promote Lemmy on Reddit in those niche communities. I wish I had the time and personality to actually start the communities I want to see on Lemmy, but sadly I don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm trying to help get engagement in the WoT community! I just don't know what to post lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 4 points 3 years ago Me neither lol. Posting kind of only makes sense when you're currently reading/rereading the series,and I'm not right now, so it's hard to come up with content. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I hope so! I'm definitely going to do my best to promote Lemmy on Reddit in those niche communities. I wish I had the time and personality to actually start the communities I want to see on Lemmy, but sadly I don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm trying to help get engagement in the WoT community! I just don't know what to post lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 4 points 3 years ago Me neither lol. Posting kind of only makes sense when you're currently reading/rereading the series,and I'm not right now, so it's hard to come up with content. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Landrin201@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) I'm trying to help get engagement in the WoT community! I just don't know what to post lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 4 points 3 years ago Me neither lol. Posting kind of only makes sense when you're currently reading/rereading the series,and I'm not right now, so it's hard to come up with content. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] edgerunneralexis@dataterm.digital 4 points 3 years ago Me neither lol. Posting kind of only makes sense when you're currently reading/rereading the series,and I'm not right now, so it's hard to come up with content. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] ironsoap@lemmy.one 7 points 3 years ago A digression, but it is the same high quality niche information that LLM's are after I believe. I'd be curious about what you think the trove's longevity in terms of relevance is? I ask as the more timeless it is the less chance it will be replaced, and the more valuable it is a s a learning resource. I woulad also agree that it makes sense to split your time, personally. I hope some of those communities begin to shift, but it is a idol dream. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DigiWolf@pawb.social 40 points 3 years ago Exactly. I donβt care about the blackout anymore. I want this to be the digg moment for Reddit, especially with how Spez is behaving towards his users which are transitively his content creators. The idea of a federated internet sounds a lot better anyways. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] maporita@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 years ago Lemmy is more than worth it just for the lack of "he gets us" ads alone. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child) deleted by creator permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] kadu@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) Funny you should mention that, one of the first things I noticed on Lemmy is the culture on emojis, people like them. I for one am totally onboard π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 28 points 3 years ago (3 children) The emoji hating folks on reddit were a weird subculture. Acting like you're too mature for emojis is... Really immature imo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] eric5949@beehaw.org 11 points 3 years ago* They really be like "lmao emojis are childish Β―β \_β (β γβ )β _β /β Β―" permalink fedilink source parent [β] DigiWolf@pawb.social 10 points 3 years ago The reason for it is that emojis are very heavily used in conjunction with low quality content. Thatβs why the backlash was there. That and the people who litter their comments with dozens of them. Emojis are fine in moderation but Reddit just went 100% against permalink fedilink source parent [β] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Women tend to use emojis more and if there's one thing reddit hates it's women permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] alwaysconfused@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've always saw the bias against women on reddit until about a week ago when I got a chance to really understand that it's more like pure, unfiltered hate against women. I rarely post to social media because it's a huge energy drain on me but I decided to make a post on a support subreddit regarding toxic masculinity. I talked about how I was a target for bullying and harassment for not being 'manly' and shared experiences of witnessing gross and manipulative behaviour against women and lgbt+ people. I received a lot of positive feedback. Some men spoke up about seeing the same, unacceptable behaviour from their coworkers. Some women confirmed what I said was true and a few were happy just being validated. My post had to be removed because the moderator of that subreddit had been receiving threats about my post. My post didn't violate any of the reddit or the subreddit rules. Some very angry individuals who couldn't read the nuance in my post had claimed it was hate speech. The moderator contacted me and thanked me for talking about such topics. Ultimately she couldn't deal with the hate that was being directed at her, which I completely understand. That whole incident really opened my eyes to just how much hate women get on that site. Leaving reddit for good got so much easier after that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) One of my most down voted comments came when I said that feminism isn't anti man, it's pro woman, and in turn, pro everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 years ago* This is a really difficult topic though, because there is no one form of feminism. You got old school, where it was about basic rights (Right to vote, right to work, right to drive a car, ..) and then newer forms that might take things too far. One relatively current example: Feminists want that board members of large companies are at least 50% female. It sounds fair on the surface, but it really isn't. Because what happens when the number reaches 60%? 70%? Mission still accomplished, even though you just started to discriminate against men at that point instead of hiring based on merit. When it comes to universities we already have that situation. More women than men get higher degrees, but nobody is trying to push more men into nursing for example (which is 86% female dominated). The push only happens for STEM with female only scholarships and making it easier for women to get accepted into courses. But again, the goal is to get to 50%+, but nobody seems to care when the balance entirely tips to the other side. Same for dangerous jobs, 95% of oil rig drillers are male, but nobody pushes for more women in this job. Simply because it's dirty and hard work (though paid well). True equality would be to hire based on merit. Don't even put names and gender on applications for example. Everyone should get the same chances, same rights, same treatment as much as possible. If they can and want to do the work, they should have a crack at it. Favoritism only makes a mess. If you include a ratio of women vs men in a job and a capable woman gets it simply because they want to raise the ratio she'll still fight against prejudice that she only got the job because of her gender. That really helps no one. So personally I might agree with a lot of points of feminism, but I'd rather call myself an egalitarian. Can't we just treat everyone well? permalink fedilink source parent [β] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Man here. I love emojis, they are so cute π₯Ή permalink fedilink source parent
[β] kadu@lemmy.world 23 points 3 years ago (1 child) Funny you should mention that, one of the first things I noticed on Lemmy is the culture on emojis, people like them. I for one am totally onboard π permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 28 points 3 years ago (3 children) The emoji hating folks on reddit were a weird subculture. Acting like you're too mature for emojis is... Really immature imo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] eric5949@beehaw.org 11 points 3 years ago* They really be like "lmao emojis are childish Β―β \_β (β γβ )β _β /β Β―" permalink fedilink source parent [β] DigiWolf@pawb.social 10 points 3 years ago The reason for it is that emojis are very heavily used in conjunction with low quality content. Thatβs why the backlash was there. That and the people who litter their comments with dozens of them. Emojis are fine in moderation but Reddit just went 100% against permalink fedilink source parent [β] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Women tend to use emojis more and if there's one thing reddit hates it's women permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] alwaysconfused@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've always saw the bias against women on reddit until about a week ago when I got a chance to really understand that it's more like pure, unfiltered hate against women. I rarely post to social media because it's a huge energy drain on me but I decided to make a post on a support subreddit regarding toxic masculinity. I talked about how I was a target for bullying and harassment for not being 'manly' and shared experiences of witnessing gross and manipulative behaviour against women and lgbt+ people. I received a lot of positive feedback. Some men spoke up about seeing the same, unacceptable behaviour from their coworkers. Some women confirmed what I said was true and a few were happy just being validated. My post had to be removed because the moderator of that subreddit had been receiving threats about my post. My post didn't violate any of the reddit or the subreddit rules. Some very angry individuals who couldn't read the nuance in my post had claimed it was hate speech. The moderator contacted me and thanked me for talking about such topics. Ultimately she couldn't deal with the hate that was being directed at her, which I completely understand. That whole incident really opened my eyes to just how much hate women get on that site. Leaving reddit for good got so much easier after that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) One of my most down voted comments came when I said that feminism isn't anti man, it's pro woman, and in turn, pro everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 years ago* This is a really difficult topic though, because there is no one form of feminism. You got old school, where it was about basic rights (Right to vote, right to work, right to drive a car, ..) and then newer forms that might take things too far. One relatively current example: Feminists want that board members of large companies are at least 50% female. It sounds fair on the surface, but it really isn't. Because what happens when the number reaches 60%? 70%? Mission still accomplished, even though you just started to discriminate against men at that point instead of hiring based on merit. When it comes to universities we already have that situation. More women than men get higher degrees, but nobody is trying to push more men into nursing for example (which is 86% female dominated). The push only happens for STEM with female only scholarships and making it easier for women to get accepted into courses. But again, the goal is to get to 50%+, but nobody seems to care when the balance entirely tips to the other side. Same for dangerous jobs, 95% of oil rig drillers are male, but nobody pushes for more women in this job. Simply because it's dirty and hard work (though paid well). True equality would be to hire based on merit. Don't even put names and gender on applications for example. Everyone should get the same chances, same rights, same treatment as much as possible. If they can and want to do the work, they should have a crack at it. Favoritism only makes a mess. If you include a ratio of women vs men in a job and a capable woman gets it simply because they want to raise the ratio she'll still fight against prejudice that she only got the job because of her gender. That really helps no one. So personally I might agree with a lot of points of feminism, but I'd rather call myself an egalitarian. Can't we just treat everyone well? permalink fedilink source parent [β] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Man here. I love emojis, they are so cute π₯Ή permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 28 points 3 years ago (3 children) The emoji hating folks on reddit were a weird subculture. Acting like you're too mature for emojis is... Really immature imo permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] eric5949@beehaw.org 11 points 3 years ago* They really be like "lmao emojis are childish Β―β \_β (β γβ )β _β /β Β―" permalink fedilink source parent [β] DigiWolf@pawb.social 10 points 3 years ago The reason for it is that emojis are very heavily used in conjunction with low quality content. Thatβs why the backlash was there. That and the people who litter their comments with dozens of them. Emojis are fine in moderation but Reddit just went 100% against permalink fedilink source parent [β] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Women tend to use emojis more and if there's one thing reddit hates it's women permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] alwaysconfused@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've always saw the bias against women on reddit until about a week ago when I got a chance to really understand that it's more like pure, unfiltered hate against women. I rarely post to social media because it's a huge energy drain on me but I decided to make a post on a support subreddit regarding toxic masculinity. I talked about how I was a target for bullying and harassment for not being 'manly' and shared experiences of witnessing gross and manipulative behaviour against women and lgbt+ people. I received a lot of positive feedback. Some men spoke up about seeing the same, unacceptable behaviour from their coworkers. Some women confirmed what I said was true and a few were happy just being validated. My post had to be removed because the moderator of that subreddit had been receiving threats about my post. My post didn't violate any of the reddit or the subreddit rules. Some very angry individuals who couldn't read the nuance in my post had claimed it was hate speech. The moderator contacted me and thanked me for talking about such topics. Ultimately she couldn't deal with the hate that was being directed at her, which I completely understand. That whole incident really opened my eyes to just how much hate women get on that site. Leaving reddit for good got so much easier after that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) One of my most down voted comments came when I said that feminism isn't anti man, it's pro woman, and in turn, pro everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 years ago* This is a really difficult topic though, because there is no one form of feminism. You got old school, where it was about basic rights (Right to vote, right to work, right to drive a car, ..) and then newer forms that might take things too far. One relatively current example: Feminists want that board members of large companies are at least 50% female. It sounds fair on the surface, but it really isn't. Because what happens when the number reaches 60%? 70%? Mission still accomplished, even though you just started to discriminate against men at that point instead of hiring based on merit. When it comes to universities we already have that situation. More women than men get higher degrees, but nobody is trying to push more men into nursing for example (which is 86% female dominated). The push only happens for STEM with female only scholarships and making it easier for women to get accepted into courses. But again, the goal is to get to 50%+, but nobody seems to care when the balance entirely tips to the other side. Same for dangerous jobs, 95% of oil rig drillers are male, but nobody pushes for more women in this job. Simply because it's dirty and hard work (though paid well). True equality would be to hire based on merit. Don't even put names and gender on applications for example. Everyone should get the same chances, same rights, same treatment as much as possible. If they can and want to do the work, they should have a crack at it. Favoritism only makes a mess. If you include a ratio of women vs men in a job and a capable woman gets it simply because they want to raise the ratio she'll still fight against prejudice that she only got the job because of her gender. That really helps no one. So personally I might agree with a lot of points of feminism, but I'd rather call myself an egalitarian. Can't we just treat everyone well? permalink fedilink source parent [β] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Man here. I love emojis, they are so cute π₯Ή permalink fedilink source parent
[β] eric5949@beehaw.org 11 points 3 years ago* They really be like "lmao emojis are childish Β―β \_β (β γβ )β _β /β Β―" permalink fedilink source parent
[β] DigiWolf@pawb.social 10 points 3 years ago The reason for it is that emojis are very heavily used in conjunction with low quality content. Thatβs why the backlash was there. That and the people who litter their comments with dozens of them. Emojis are fine in moderation but Reddit just went 100% against permalink fedilink source parent
[β] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 8 points 3 years ago (2 children) Women tend to use emojis more and if there's one thing reddit hates it's women permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] alwaysconfused@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've always saw the bias against women on reddit until about a week ago when I got a chance to really understand that it's more like pure, unfiltered hate against women. I rarely post to social media because it's a huge energy drain on me but I decided to make a post on a support subreddit regarding toxic masculinity. I talked about how I was a target for bullying and harassment for not being 'manly' and shared experiences of witnessing gross and manipulative behaviour against women and lgbt+ people. I received a lot of positive feedback. Some men spoke up about seeing the same, unacceptable behaviour from their coworkers. Some women confirmed what I said was true and a few were happy just being validated. My post had to be removed because the moderator of that subreddit had been receiving threats about my post. My post didn't violate any of the reddit or the subreddit rules. Some very angry individuals who couldn't read the nuance in my post had claimed it was hate speech. The moderator contacted me and thanked me for talking about such topics. Ultimately she couldn't deal with the hate that was being directed at her, which I completely understand. That whole incident really opened my eyes to just how much hate women get on that site. Leaving reddit for good got so much easier after that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) One of my most down voted comments came when I said that feminism isn't anti man, it's pro woman, and in turn, pro everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 years ago* This is a really difficult topic though, because there is no one form of feminism. You got old school, where it was about basic rights (Right to vote, right to work, right to drive a car, ..) and then newer forms that might take things too far. One relatively current example: Feminists want that board members of large companies are at least 50% female. It sounds fair on the surface, but it really isn't. Because what happens when the number reaches 60%? 70%? Mission still accomplished, even though you just started to discriminate against men at that point instead of hiring based on merit. When it comes to universities we already have that situation. More women than men get higher degrees, but nobody is trying to push more men into nursing for example (which is 86% female dominated). The push only happens for STEM with female only scholarships and making it easier for women to get accepted into courses. But again, the goal is to get to 50%+, but nobody seems to care when the balance entirely tips to the other side. Same for dangerous jobs, 95% of oil rig drillers are male, but nobody pushes for more women in this job. Simply because it's dirty and hard work (though paid well). True equality would be to hire based on merit. Don't even put names and gender on applications for example. Everyone should get the same chances, same rights, same treatment as much as possible. If they can and want to do the work, they should have a crack at it. Favoritism only makes a mess. If you include a ratio of women vs men in a job and a capable woman gets it simply because they want to raise the ratio she'll still fight against prejudice that she only got the job because of her gender. That really helps no one. So personally I might agree with a lot of points of feminism, but I'd rather call myself an egalitarian. Can't we just treat everyone well? permalink fedilink source parent [β] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Man here. I love emojis, they are so cute π₯Ή permalink fedilink source parent
[β] alwaysconfused@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 years ago (1 child) I've always saw the bias against women on reddit until about a week ago when I got a chance to really understand that it's more like pure, unfiltered hate against women. I rarely post to social media because it's a huge energy drain on me but I decided to make a post on a support subreddit regarding toxic masculinity. I talked about how I was a target for bullying and harassment for not being 'manly' and shared experiences of witnessing gross and manipulative behaviour against women and lgbt+ people. I received a lot of positive feedback. Some men spoke up about seeing the same, unacceptable behaviour from their coworkers. Some women confirmed what I said was true and a few were happy just being validated. My post had to be removed because the moderator of that subreddit had been receiving threats about my post. My post didn't violate any of the reddit or the subreddit rules. Some very angry individuals who couldn't read the nuance in my post had claimed it was hate speech. The moderator contacted me and thanked me for talking about such topics. Ultimately she couldn't deal with the hate that was being directed at her, which I completely understand. That whole incident really opened my eyes to just how much hate women get on that site. Leaving reddit for good got so much easier after that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) One of my most down voted comments came when I said that feminism isn't anti man, it's pro woman, and in turn, pro everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 years ago* This is a really difficult topic though, because there is no one form of feminism. You got old school, where it was about basic rights (Right to vote, right to work, right to drive a car, ..) and then newer forms that might take things too far. One relatively current example: Feminists want that board members of large companies are at least 50% female. It sounds fair on the surface, but it really isn't. Because what happens when the number reaches 60%? 70%? Mission still accomplished, even though you just started to discriminate against men at that point instead of hiring based on merit. When it comes to universities we already have that situation. More women than men get higher degrees, but nobody is trying to push more men into nursing for example (which is 86% female dominated). The push only happens for STEM with female only scholarships and making it easier for women to get accepted into courses. But again, the goal is to get to 50%+, but nobody seems to care when the balance entirely tips to the other side. Same for dangerous jobs, 95% of oil rig drillers are male, but nobody pushes for more women in this job. Simply because it's dirty and hard work (though paid well). True equality would be to hire based on merit. Don't even put names and gender on applications for example. Everyone should get the same chances, same rights, same treatment as much as possible. If they can and want to do the work, they should have a crack at it. Favoritism only makes a mess. If you include a ratio of women vs men in a job and a capable woman gets it simply because they want to raise the ratio she'll still fight against prejudice that she only got the job because of her gender. That really helps no one. So personally I might agree with a lot of points of feminism, but I'd rather call myself an egalitarian. Can't we just treat everyone well? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Cube6392@beehaw.org 5 points 3 years ago (1 child) One of my most down voted comments came when I said that feminism isn't anti man, it's pro woman, and in turn, pro everyone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 years ago* This is a really difficult topic though, because there is no one form of feminism. You got old school, where it was about basic rights (Right to vote, right to work, right to drive a car, ..) and then newer forms that might take things too far. One relatively current example: Feminists want that board members of large companies are at least 50% female. It sounds fair on the surface, but it really isn't. Because what happens when the number reaches 60%? 70%? Mission still accomplished, even though you just started to discriminate against men at that point instead of hiring based on merit. When it comes to universities we already have that situation. More women than men get higher degrees, but nobody is trying to push more men into nursing for example (which is 86% female dominated). The push only happens for STEM with female only scholarships and making it easier for women to get accepted into courses. But again, the goal is to get to 50%+, but nobody seems to care when the balance entirely tips to the other side. Same for dangerous jobs, 95% of oil rig drillers are male, but nobody pushes for more women in this job. Simply because it's dirty and hard work (though paid well). True equality would be to hire based on merit. Don't even put names and gender on applications for example. Everyone should get the same chances, same rights, same treatment as much as possible. If they can and want to do the work, they should have a crack at it. Favoritism only makes a mess. If you include a ratio of women vs men in a job and a capable woman gets it simply because they want to raise the ratio she'll still fight against prejudice that she only got the job because of her gender. That really helps no one. So personally I might agree with a lot of points of feminism, but I'd rather call myself an egalitarian. Can't we just treat everyone well? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Vlyn@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 years ago* This is a really difficult topic though, because there is no one form of feminism. You got old school, where it was about basic rights (Right to vote, right to work, right to drive a car, ..) and then newer forms that might take things too far. One relatively current example: Feminists want that board members of large companies are at least 50% female. It sounds fair on the surface, but it really isn't. Because what happens when the number reaches 60%? 70%? Mission still accomplished, even though you just started to discriminate against men at that point instead of hiring based on merit. When it comes to universities we already have that situation. More women than men get higher degrees, but nobody is trying to push more men into nursing for example (which is 86% female dominated). The push only happens for STEM with female only scholarships and making it easier for women to get accepted into courses. But again, the goal is to get to 50%+, but nobody seems to care when the balance entirely tips to the other side. Same for dangerous jobs, 95% of oil rig drillers are male, but nobody pushes for more women in this job. Simply because it's dirty and hard work (though paid well). True equality would be to hire based on merit. Don't even put names and gender on applications for example. Everyone should get the same chances, same rights, same treatment as much as possible. If they can and want to do the work, they should have a crack at it. Favoritism only makes a mess. If you include a ratio of women vs men in a job and a capable woman gets it simply because they want to raise the ratio she'll still fight against prejudice that she only got the job because of her gender. That really helps no one. So personally I might agree with a lot of points of feminism, but I'd rather call myself an egalitarian. Can't we just treat everyone well? permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SomethingBurger@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Man here. I love emojis, they are so cute π₯Ή permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Celivalg@iusearchlinux.fyi 19 points 3 years ago Same feelings, however, I do want to watch it go down with popcorn, this amuses me greatly permalink fedilink source parent
