this post was submitted on 04 Jan 2024
153 points (98.7% liked)
Games
32647 readers
1499 users here now
Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.
Weekly Threads:
Rules:
-
Submissions have to be related to games
-
No bigotry or harassment, be civil
-
No excessive self-promotion
-
Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts
-
Mark Spoilers and NSFW
-
No linking to piracy
More information about the community rules can be found here.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Europa Universalis IV and Stellaris. For exactly the same reasons.
I spend way too much time in those games. Hundreds of hours each. But the end game is just too much of a slog. You already won, so there is no challenge; the framerate tanks into unplayable territory; and the micromanagement to manage the late game wars and economy becomes insane.
But starting with a different empire, and doing early/mid game again is awsome!
I have one of the fastest, most powerful laptops that exist, and the last century or so of stellaris brings it to a crawl.
Bg3 at 4k ultra settings? 144fps. Stellaris? There are some entire seconds without a new frame.
Same reason that Dwarf Fortress also has the same problem. Simulation is a lot heavier than graphics, and it's CPU heavy, but gaming computer usually have acceptable CPUs and powerhouse GPUs, so they bottleneck on the CPU with simulation games.
I have an i9 13900, so uh, it isn't exactly a mid tier CPU.
Stellaris just can't have a full, long game without eating shit at the end frame wise.
edit: i9 13980HK, slightly wrong model, point stands as its a very high end CPU that'll beat the snot out of anything normal. Stellaris is actually just brutal to run end game.