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What's the point of buying new phones every years? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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Other than your carrier give it for free or cheap, I don't really see the reason why should you buy new phone. I've been using Redmi Note 9 for past 3 years and recently got my had on Poco F5. I don't see the point of my 'upgrade'. I sold it and come back to my Note 9. Gaming? Most of them are p2w or microtransaction garbage or just gimped version of its PC/Console counterpart. I mean, $400 still get you PS4, TV and Switch if you don't mind buying used. At least here where I live. Storage? Dude, newer phone wont even let you have SD Card. Features? Well, all I see is newer phones take more features than it adds. Headphone jack, more ads, and repairability are to name a few. Battery? Just replace them. However, my Note 9 still get through day with one 80% charge in the dawn. Which takes 1 hour.

I am genuinely curious why newer phone always selling like hot cakes. Since there's virtually no difference between 4gb of RAM and 12gb of RAM, or 12mp camera and 100mp camera on phone.

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[–] 35 points 3 years ago (20 children)

Pixel actually guarantees 5 years now and if you put GrapheneOS on it, then you'll have one of the most private and secure operating systems available

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago (10 children)

    just a side note for graphene: i have the feeling that it’s not for everyone. β€œtoo much” security tends to get in the UX way

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (9 children)

    Chances are if you know how to use an Android, using Graphene isn't too much harder. You can still download from the play store and run apps like normal. If you're reading this post then you probably have the technical knowhow to plug your phone into the computer and press the start button.

    Fair point with not being for everybody though, I wouldn't be comfortable giving it to my non-techy family and friends. You do have a fair point.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    I've been running GrapheneOS on my Pixel 3 for three years and I have few complaints. I still cant figure out how to get automatic updates to work in Android 13 with the Neo or Droidify stores but atleast the stock GOS apps auto update. BTW, to clarify what you said, we have to use the Aurora app to download from Google Play Store.

    You're right it's not for most people. Not having Google services installed might be a major blow for people who have become accustomed to the conveniences they provide. I just use a separate vanilla Pixel for Google services if I need them, but the phone with my SIM card is the one with GrapheneOS.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (2 children)

    You can turn Google Services on if you would like. I personally do have it turned on as some of my apps wouldn't get notifications without it. You could use it as a normal android downloading through the play store and nobody would notice that it's degoogled. All the apps are sandbox and you can change what permissions that have, I previously used CalyxOS and this is much more private and secure.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (4 children)

    Out of curiosity, which Pixel phone is a good one to have GrapheneOS installed on to last a long time?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    The latest Pixel would get the longest update. They follow Google's support updates which is 5 years from the time it is available for purchase.

    https://grapheneos.org/faq#device-lifetime

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  • [+] -2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago (1 child)

    I followed this controversy as well. On the GrapheneOS forum, strcat announced he has stepped down to work on himself. The project is running like normal and development is still the same as always.

    https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/5235-stepping-down-as-project-leader-of-grapheneos

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    You can do even better than five years with Fairphone (...Speaking as a Pixel user)

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    But will Fairphone be around in 5 years?

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago*

    It has been around for 10 years and 4 phones by now, and only gaining in popularity and market share. No reason to predict an early demise yet. The Fairphone 1 controversially only received 3 years of updates, but since then it's 5 years.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Fairphone is also guaranteed only 5 years. If not, then they are probably using a custom ROM that is not directly supported by Google. I'll keep my eye out for this company though, the repairability is great and I love the repairability of the phone.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The article I just linked says they're extending support to 7 years: Out to 2026 for their 2019 model, the Fairphone 3. The article also links to an older article talking about how the Fairphone 2 ended up with 7 years.

    I'm in the US so the Fairphone was never really a consideration for me, but if it's available whenever I need my next phone I'll definitely look into it. It's pretty annoying to be using Google's own phone, and still only have access to 3 years of OS updates.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

    Interesting. So 7 years for the Fairphone 3 but it seems on their website, for the Fairphone 4, it is only 5 years, they might extend it to 7 years like their previous phones though.

    Edit: Apparently Fairphone 4 is coming to the U.S, but with /e/os instead of the fairphone os.

    https://shop.fairphone.com/?ref=header

    https://www.fairphone.com/en/open-source/

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/07/fairphone-is-coming-to-america/

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