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By Israel, I mean anyone who doesn't fight against the apartheid state.
Define "fight against".
Is criticism and political opposition enough? Or do you expect every Israeli citizen who's not a fascist themself to take up arms? Something in between?
I think it's fair to say Israelis bear as much blame as Russians for not fighting back against their government.
Probably even more-so, since Israelis don't have to fear falling out of a window or wrongful imprisonment.
No, most Israelis are pro-genocide because Zionism is religious nationalism.
Russian civilians weren't massacred in their own homes. They attacked Ukraine. Hamas are the genocidal ones it is in their manifesto. So no not the same.
If you pay taxes to the Israeli government, you're complicit in the genocide.
If you don't speak out/protest, you're complicit.
If you vote for the current government or don't vote for an alternative, you're complicit.
Are you suggesting that the people of Gaza are complicit in the crimes of Hamas?
Is Hamas "the government"
Yes?
Yes, actually.
I honestly didn't. I was under the impression that Hamas is in control but I didn't realize they were governing. So they collect taxes and provide public services to the population?
What thought or opinion are you referencing?
The latter two are fair, but fighting fascism by not contributing to ANY part of society, including good ones like their single payer healthcare system, is some Ancap level bullshit 🤦
I mean, Israelis are required to join the military.
Those were my actions against the US government during the Iraq/Afghanistan wars. Seems reasonable to me.
Actually, I'm not.
Lol, you don't get to choose to not pay taxes. You either own nothing and are unemployed, or you are a child.
Such a hilarious statement to think you can just fight the IRS.
Ok now you’re just being an ass
In a thread defending a country committing genocide, I guess it might be difficult for some people to understand the kind of principles it takes to leave a country that commits war crimes around the world.
But you do you.
Wow, if anyone is a child here it's you.
You can avoid paying taxes by doing all of your business under the table. This might come as a shock to a child like you, but some people are making enough money and have enough connections to do just that.
What a scummy thing to do, most call it fraud.
I assume in that time you won't be using roads or any public infrastructure then?
Or else what?
Probably nothing at all, potentially going to jail if you are caught evading tax, but that's a few steps away I'm sure.
Just the knowledge that you're taking from society without giving to society. If you hate your government so much that you're prepared to commit tax fraud then I assume that you've done everything possible to leave, right? Which countries have you tried emigrating to out of interest?
You just stink of entitlement, that's all :) x
Lol, you know nothing about me but okay.
There are plenty of reasons to avoid paying taxes. Only fools and children will change their actions based on what losers on the internet may think of them.
I agree. I don't expect to change your behaviour, just felt like pointing out the shitty behaviour of letting others pay for the stuff you use when you should be paying for it too.
I know a small amount about you, that small amount consists of shitty behaviour. That's about it :) x
It's not just paying for stuff they use, it's how much they're paying and also the stuff that they don't want be funded (like aid to Israel.)
For example, government funded housing programs don't actually get better deals for their clients. It's essentially a scam to funnel taxpayer money to landlords.
Another example would be medicare and medicaid. Because the industries are privately owned, taxpayers are wasting money to maximize profit for business owners.
I'm sorry that you pay into a system without understanding it, but that doesn't make those who avoid it shitty people.
Do you think the disparity in wealth should grow, or shrink? Funneling taxpayer money to businesses maximizing profit is how the disparity in wealth grows.
If you don't like it, maybe you should advocate for nationalizing industries that suck up taxpayer money.
If you live off the grid and support yourself completely then more power to you. Doesn't sound like that's the case though and you can't simply decide to not pay tax because you disagree with SOME decisions the government makes. I'm not even from the US but I don't like many decisions my government makes. I still pay tax though because it's going to plenty of things I use and letting others pay my share is dickish behaviour. Me not agreeing with the military strategy or distribution of funds to healthcare is a separate issue and if you want to campaign to change that (or similar) that's exactly what you should do (and again, more power to you).
Sure we can.
You can choose to do whatever you want and if you can get away with it, then... you can do it. Lol.
The system is built around taking advantage of people, so it only makes sense that some people take advantage of it.
If you don't like it, then have fun paying into it. It's your money, do what you want with it.
Surely you understand why people would judge that decision as dickish then right? You understand that if everyone had the same mentality it'd be chaos? That it's basically a "well, I got mine!" attitude?
Any of these things? X
No? I didn't think so. Ah well.
So you're either a child, are supported by somebody else, or committing fraud.
Whatever the answer is, I doubt many will care about your opinion.
You mean you stopped paying taxes? How did you evade the IRS?
Are the people of Palestine complicit in the actions of Hamas, then?
Are they able to leave and therefore stop supporting Hamas?