submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
 

Is uh, anyone else watching? This dude (chaos) was/is friends with Brent Dill.

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[–] 7 points 2 years ago* (17 children)

Apparently Aella and Robin Hanson showed up at vibecamp too, I guess it's a big deal for the greater rationalist community.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (13 children)

    Hanson was the Gentle Silent Guest of Honor.

    (This is a joke, and for the people who don't get it trust me you are better off not knowing. No really. Still curious? Google "Hanson Gentle Silent" (without "), but I warned you).'

    E 1, 2, 3, 4, 5!

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    How bad can it be?

    Search. Read a few paragraphs. Close tab in disgust.

    Yikes. These people. Did they become rats because they couldn't understand other people existing and valuing their bodily autonomy or did becoming rats do this to them?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    rats

    As that dehumanizes people we try not to use those words.

    But I think they value logic, reason, having new ideas, and looking at things from an neutral way so they come up with these kinds of contrarian bullshit ideas. And the worst is of course they aren't even trying to be edgy funny, no just banality of evil lack of emotions. There is also an element of 'look at what we can think about without being all disgusted' part.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago

    Intended as abbreviation, but fair point. And no slight to any actual rattus rattus, if any are acasually lurking from the civilization they will build long after humans wipe themselves out. Impressive animals.

    Reasonable explanation of why they write this kind of stuff, thanks. And of course such a culture attracts those who like to write such.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 years ago* (3 children)

    For my part I didn’t read the “rats” bit as (intending to be a) dehumanising (use), but instead as the short form of the name as they themselves use it too

    But the possibility from overloaded context doesn’t help, I’ll definitely agree on that - if someone read this without some context knowledge, it could def read badly

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  • [–] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I get how people mean it, but these kinds of things can escalate quickly, and I thought I should refer back to the norms of r/sneerclub at least once. 'Make fun of' places online quickly turn into harassment when people are not careful. And there are non-zero people who look at an online community and see that as some sort of social proof for the bad things they want to do (See also the risk of the Rationalists hinting at blowing up AI labs/chip fabs, stochastic terrorism is a risk and I'd rather reduce the risk by not using dehumanizing language (even if I also love to abbreviate)).

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (1 child)

    I first encountered the word "post-rats" a couple years ago in random contextless tweets and I was so, so disappointed when I found out they weren't talking about some sort of weird animal transformation fetish subculture.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 years ago

    Whenever I see "rationalist" abbreviated to "rat", I think of the Sliders episode where they land on Fundamentalist Earth and discover an underground movement of "radical rationalists" or "rad rats".

    So, if for no other reason, we should avoid abbreviating "rationalist" to "rat" because we do not need life to resemble Sliders.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    You had furry femboy ancoms rubbing shoulders with proto-fascists

    I flatly do not fucking believe this claim

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