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[–] [email protected] 215 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The fact that Ram drivers are a close second is hilarious. I guess there is some truth to all the jokes about Rams being driven by aggressive idiots.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Aggressive drunk* idiots. Statistically.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least Tesla owners can blame it on the computer. 🤣

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“It appears the fault was located between the drivers seat and steering wheel, sir”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Good ole close the ticket with message “PEBKAC”

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am still waiting for the inevitable country music song about a broken hearted cowboy whose self driving car leaves him for another man.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Weird Al should be all over this.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Saw this on Lemmy a few weeks ago

(Verse 1) Sitting in the cab of my old pickup truck, Memories rollin' by, like the miles we used to clock. Drove through the sunset, with you by my side, Never thought a metal heart could take me for a ride.

(Chorus) We were a highway love, wind in our hair, Haulin' dreams together, an inseparable pair. But now you're gone, and it's just my luck, My darlin' left me, a self-driving truck.

(Verse 2) We hauled our troubles down those lonesome roads, Your engine hummed the tunes, while our story unfolds. Loaded up with laughter, and baggage too, Little did I know, you had a route of your own to pursue.

(Chorus) We were a highway love, wind in our hair, Haulin' dreams together, an inseparable pair. But now you're gone, and it's just my luck, My darlin' left me, a self-driving truck.

(Bridge) I miss the way your headlights cut through the night, The hum of your engine, our rhythm just right. But now the road is empty, just echoes of our song, You found a new destination, I guess I got it wrong.

(Verse 3) We parked under stars, shared secrets in the dark, But now it's just silence, an abandoned truck stop. I'm left with memories, and a tank full of regret, A self-driving heartbreak, I'll never forget.

(Chorus) We were a highway love, wind in our hair, Haulin' dreams together, an inseparable pair. But now you're gone, and it's just my luck, My darlin' left me, a self-driving truck.

(Outro) So here I am, parked on this lonely track, Wishing you'd come back, but you won't look back. You rolled away, with gears that don't feel, Left me stranded, at the crossroads of steel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

YES!

Fuck, I actually have a decent singing voice, no guitar though.

Lets find someone with a guitar and make this a stupid spotify single or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I read that as Weird Artificial Intelligence. Probably because of the context, since it never occured to me to read it like that before.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Saw this on Lemmy a few weeks ago

(Verse 1) Sitting in the cab of my old pickup truck, Memories rollin' by, like the miles we used to clock. Drove through the sunset, with you by my side, Never thought a metal heart could take me for a ride.

(Chorus) We were a highway love, wind in our hair, Haulin' dreams together, an inseparable pair. But now you're gone, and it's just my luck, My darlin' left me, a self-driving truck.

(Verse 2) We hauled our troubles down those lonesome roads, Your engine hummed the tunes, while our story unfolds. Loaded up with laughter, and baggage too, Little did I know, you had a route of your own to pursue.

(Chorus) We were a highway love, wind in our hair, Haulin' dreams together, an inseparable pair. But now you're gone, and it's just my luck, My darlin' left me, a self-driving truck.

(Bridge) I miss the way your headlights cut through the night, The hum of your engine, our rhythm just right. But now the road is empty, just echoes of our song, You found a new destination, I guess I got it wrong.

(Verse 3) We parked under stars, shared secrets in the dark, But now it's just silence, an abandoned truck stop. I'm left with memories, and a tank full of regret, A self-driving heartbreak, I'll never forget.

(Chorus) We were a highway love, wind in our hair, Haulin' dreams together, an inseparable pair. But now you're gone, and it's just my luck, My darlin' left me, a self-driving truck.

(Outro) So here I am, parked on this lonely track, Wishing you'd come back, but you won't look back. You rolled away, with gears that don't feel, Left me stranded, at the crossroads of steel.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think there might be something to be said here for some potential selection bias. Are Tesla drivers like ram drivers, overly aggressive idiots but with the added layer of being relatively new tech?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

More boringly , maybe its selection on the circumstances too. For example maybe ev's tend to drive more in urban environments, more urban may mean more collision opprtunities per time spent driving.

Of course ram is a farmers vehicle is desgned for rural use, so must rarely be seen in built up areas. /s

edit: having glanced at the cited article - theres no obvious mention of any risk adjustment, the measures seem to be simple ratio of crashes per driver. No obvious control for whether the sub-population spend more or less time driving.
Rate per - place-specific-risk adjusted person-hour would work better.

As often with things like risk, it really helps to be able to do a multidimensional analysis. See if vehicle type/brand is significant after controlling for as many circumstantial factors and exposure related factors as you can reliably observe.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I assure you that large obnoxious trucks are a status symbol for many idiot right wing boomers and gen x, who take pride in daily driving a truck for their commute into, inside, and outside of cities.

They also complain about traffic, while simultaneously doing everything they can to under or unfund public transit, because they are literally incapable of understanding that adding more lanes to highways does not actually reduce traffic.

EDIT oh NO i missed the /s.

Oh well lol.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Don't forget complaining about gas prices while driving a 17 mpg vehicle.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Seems like around me most of the big truck douches are probably 45 or under. Don't think it's limited to just boomers or gen x.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, in my observation, it's young men with money to burn, or they want to appear that they have money to burn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This is true, there is a whole thing with truck dealerships being immediately adjacent to military bases and housing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

hah, no bother.
Take any excuse to vent.

Fortunately for me I don't live in USA so these things are still a bit of a rarity, and are quite impractical in my town's, compact and heavily pedestrianised town centre.

Sounds like yoy've a plague of them over there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re impractical in US town centers too. Drivers of these often live in suburban and rural areas and act like “omg city = CRIME and those people”, and if they come into the city, get frustrated because their giant POS vehicles are difficult to park as they’re terrible at maneuvering (drivers and the truck) and don’t fit in many parking spaces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is so common that when I see the rare one that can actually drive and park well in a city I actually stop being angry and switch to being impressed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm sure some truck drivers are very good at it, if they have to drive large trailers often for instance. But a lot of the time their giant trucks can't even fit into a parking spot without taking up more than one space.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yep. You say plague, I say smooth brained consuumor zombie apocalypse.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The Forbes article seems to be citing numbers that are now a few weeks out of date. They cite that Tesla drivers have 23.54 accidents per 1,000 drivers and Ram has 22.76. If you go to their source link you'll see that the more recent numbers are Tesla: 31.13 and Ram: 32.90.

https://www.lendingtree.com/insurance/brand-incidents-study/

Ram in MA is 64.44 and I want these fucking things outlawed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Read the source more carefully

Tesla drivers have the highest accident rate. From Nov. 14, 2022, through Nov. 14, 2023, Tesla drivers had 23.54 accidents per 1,000 drivers. Ram (22.76)

Accidents only. Worst driver counts DUIs a d fines as well.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why does Massachusetts have such aggressive drivers? That seems like a large deviation for such a small state

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't it has a shit ton of ice and snow

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe in the Berkshires? The Boston area doesn’t get to much snow, and I would bet that is where most of the accidents are.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It’s mostly urban though. 7 million isn’t that small and it shouldn’t affect something expressed as a rate anyway.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I moved here and am still asking that question myself. Only in mass do people honk if you dare to stop for a stop sign.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It’s it the Ram that’s the problem, or the driver that also likes to cover the Ram in Infowars bumper stickers?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Where I live Audi's drivers are the worst. It's like they are for losers that would like to do some posturing but can't afford a Mercedes and their frustrations manifest themselves in their stupid driving style.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't have a Mercedes because the EQS is not aspirational, as MB recently declared in relation to the lackluster sales of the series.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

There just expensive and brands expect people to fork out crazy amounts of cash for these cars.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

"If you can't Dodge it, Ram it"

I see why Stellantis spun Ram into its own brand now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had a friend years ago with Dodge Ram van. He said, "it says Dodge in the front because that's what you're supposed to do when you see it coming and Ram in the back because you didn't read the warning on the front."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I wonder what that says about my Dodge Sprinter.....

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

"I am driving a lifted DODGE RAM TRUCK"

"My lifted DODGE RAM TRUCK has BLINDING WHITE LED headlights positioned EXACTLY at EYE LEVEL. "

"I am currently TAILGATING you in the RIGHT LANE even though you’re going TWENTY MILES AN HOUR over the speed limit and the LEFT LANE is OPEN."

"There are MONSTER ENERGY and FOX RACING stickers on the rear windshield of my lifted DODGE RAM TRUCK."

"There are PERFECTLY CLEAN mud tires and MASSIVE CHROME RIMS on my lifted DODGE RAM TRUCK."

"I make THIRTY-ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS a year and thought that that was a WISE FINANCIAL DECISION."

"I bring cases of BUD LIGHT to girls at high school parties while my wife and children are at home."

"My lifted DODGE RAM TRUCK has a GUN RACK which holds the AR-15 that I bought at WAL-MART."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At that point is seems like a good idea to replace human drivers.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly, bring in much more public transportation. It would solve so many problems.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh definitely! I barely drive my car these days.