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It's a little more complicated. The accuser made some statements that may be contradicted by the video of the encounter that Ziegler secretly recorded. The police recovered the video from his Google drive and it's been reported that the recording includes conversation during the act.
Also, security video shows that he knocked on the door and was let in. The accuser's affidavit claims that she opened the door to walk her dog and he was out there, came in and raped her. I'm sure he's counting on these discrepancies in her statement to get him off (pun intended) by showing it as a consensual act.
However, this video should be another problem for him because Florida is a 2-party consent state making it a crime to secretly record a conversation, let alone a sex act. This is a 3rd degree felony punishable by 5 years in prison and a $5000 fine.
Personally I hope they get him on the rape and the secret recording.
These "family values"/"protect our children" fake ass Christians deserve every ounce of political fallout, but don't really see how these events constitute rape honestly.
Scummy/pushy behavior by still showing up to her door, and genuine regret from her afterward, but it sounds like there was consent before the act and at least some level of dishonesty in her version of events.
Idk, she could be just saying if you're going to rape me, at least don't fuck up my new shirt. This isn't evidence to me and I doubt anything that asshole says anyway.
Again, do we know any of this? This sounds a lot like trying to get ahead of the story.