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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 99 points 2 years ago (3 children) When I travel to Europe I just say I'm Canadian. Then I get sympathy for having to live next to the US. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (5 children) I’m Canadian, and I get super offended when foreigners assume I’m from America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You forgot to insert the obligatory national sentence ender: "Sorry". You'll have to be sent off for mandatory re-Caneducation training. Please be sure to arrive wearing your standard issue plaid shirt, and toque. Tim Hortons coffee will be served and there is a 3 three drink minimum. Sorry. Edit: grammer/clarification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You forgot to insert the obligatory national sentence ender: “Sorry”. That's "Sorry eh", you imposter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Use of "eh" became optional in 1982 when the Charter of Rights and Freedoms came into effect and limited our obligation to use more than one Canadian stereotype in any given sentence, ya hoser. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sombyr@lemmy.one 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a Vermonter, I also get offended when people think I'm from America. They are correct and I'm not happy about that fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, no need to be reminded all the time permalink fedilink source parent [–] oce@jlai.lu 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) But, that's factual permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Breezy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) People born in mexico are also from American(central america). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narp@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) *North America permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on the culture, some consider America as a single entity. North Americans seem to prefer to consider themselves as a whole continent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "America" as a single entity, devoid of qualifiers, is the entirety of North and South America. A massive and diverse swath of Earth with very little in common. I don't see how that's a useful definition, and most English-speakers have agreed so "America" instead is shorthand for the giant country with "America" in its name. We use descriptors because they help. "The Americas" is the whole thing, "North America" is everything from Panama to Canada plus some distant colony islands because this is politics not tectonics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago That's the common use in Latin cultures. That's why I wanted to provide this different point of view. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is only one country in the Americas that has America in the title. Everyone is aware of the continents, but only pompous douchers bring up the "technically, Canada and Mexico are American too" nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if instead of the others being pompous douchers, some people are too self-centred (or nationalists, or imperialists ?) to realize that others may not understand or appreciate how some country-men are monopolizing the demonym of their continent. It seems South Africans are succeeding in not doing that just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep that all sounds super douchey. 99% of people who know the United States and the American continents, will know exactly where you are talking about if you say America. Sorry that displeased you in all your eccentricities and fancy words, but thems the breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago What a tool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago Yep permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Canada is Diet America. Can you blame us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, that’s how we feel, until we actually go to America and interact with Americans. There is a stark difference between the cultures that isn’t actually apparent until it’s met face to face. Americans are a unique combination of arrogant, loud, and stupid. Not all of them of course, but it’s a large enough amount that you notice a difference when you cross the border. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd say that it's a culture where if you decide to be arrogant, loud and stupid, it's accepted. It's one of the archetypes of how to be American that's generally accepted. It doesn't mean that every American is like that, or that those kinds of people are loved and celebrated by other Americans. But, if you're a young loud, arrogant and stupid person, you'll find a lot of role models. You even get a lot of loud, arrogant smart people who play stupid because people like that more. I think Canada tends to emphasize humility a lot more than the US. Probably a trait borrowed from the way the upper classes were supposed to behave in the UK. So, you get a lot of skilled people who are humble: Wayne Gretzky, Ryan Reynolds, Keanu Reeves, Steve Nash, Georges St. Pierre, Christine Sinclair, David Suzuki, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Meh, my family's from upstate NY. Canadians have a rep there for being smug and very rude. Definitely not humble. I don't think the difference in culture is all that big but people want to feel unique very badly. I mean NYers also have a rep for being rude. They probably have more in common with Canadians than Texans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I honestly think some Americans aren't used to passive aggression, indirectness or sarcasm. That's why some of you don't get Canadians aren't particularly 'nice'. IME they're always saying sorry and apologizing, but like the brits they don't actually mean it most of the time. In fact, sorry can mean fuck you, depending on the context. From what I understand, the whole 'bless your heart' thing in the American South is similar. That whole thing is also incredibly condescending and smug. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Curious to hear where you went in the US that gave you that impression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have been to Seattle, Montana, Portland, New York, Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Las Vegas, New York, Washington, Arizona, I think a few other states or cities that are escaping me right now. I’ve also lived in tourist towns (I end up working in them when I have to work away, I work construction) and have met many Americans in those places too. Every time I’ve gone to the states I’ve had at least one super negative incident with an American or a group of Americans that’s left a bad taste in my mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago If you get the chance check out Minnesota or Wisconsin, the people there are pretty similar to the Canadians I know. Super nice people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes because that's where all the French people ended up permalink fedilink source parent [–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* As an American, you should. We're willfully toxic garbage all the way down. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago Ah, the Lisa Simpson stratergy permalink fedilink source parent [–] oatscoop@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I tell them I'm an American when asked. People are fundamentally the same regardless of where they live, and anyone that judges anyone else based on their nationality is being an ignorant jackass. I handle it as such with the appropriate tact for the situation -- most people are cool. The ones that aren't are morons and not worth wasting time on. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago (5 children) I’m Canadian, and I get super offended when foreigners assume I’m from America. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You forgot to insert the obligatory national sentence ender: "Sorry". You'll have to be sent off for mandatory re-Caneducation training. Please be sure to arrive wearing your standard issue plaid shirt, and toque. Tim Hortons coffee will be served and there is a 3 three drink minimum. Sorry. Edit: grammer/clarification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You forgot to insert the obligatory national sentence ender: “Sorry”. That's "Sorry eh", you imposter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Use of "eh" became optional in 1982 when the Charter of Rights and Freedoms came into effect and limited our obligation to use more than one Canadian stereotype in any given sentence, ya hoser. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sombyr@lemmy.one 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a Vermonter, I also get offended when people think I'm from America. They are correct and I'm not happy about that fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, no need to be reminded all the time permalink fedilink source parent [–] oce@jlai.lu 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) But, that's factual permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Breezy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) People born in mexico are also from American(central america). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narp@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) *North America permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on the culture, some consider America as a single entity. North Americans seem to prefer to consider themselves as a whole continent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "America" as a single entity, devoid of qualifiers, is the entirety of North and South America. A massive and diverse swath of Earth with very little in common. I don't see how that's a useful definition, and most English-speakers have agreed so "America" instead is shorthand for the giant country with "America" in its name. We use descriptors because they help. "The Americas" is the whole thing, "North America" is everything from Panama to Canada plus some distant colony islands because this is politics not tectonics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago That's the common use in Latin cultures. That's why I wanted to provide this different point of view. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is only one country in the Americas that has America in the title. Everyone is aware of the continents, but only pompous douchers bring up the "technically, Canada and Mexico are American too" nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if instead of the others being pompous douchers, some people are too self-centred (or nationalists, or imperialists ?) to realize that others may not understand or appreciate how some country-men are monopolizing the demonym of their continent. It seems South Africans are succeeding in not doing that just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep that all sounds super douchey. 99% of people who know the United States and the American continents, will know exactly where you are talking about if you say America. Sorry that displeased you in all your eccentricities and fancy words, but thems the breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago What a tool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago Yep permalink fedilink source parent [–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Canada is Diet America. Can you blame us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, that’s how we feel, until we actually go to America and interact with Americans. There is a stark difference between the cultures that isn’t actually apparent until it’s met face to face. Americans are a unique combination of arrogant, loud, and stupid. Not all of them of course, but it’s a large enough amount that you notice a difference when you cross the border. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd say that it's a culture where if you decide to be arrogant, loud and stupid, it's accepted. It's one of the archetypes of how to be American that's generally accepted. It doesn't mean that every American is like that, or that those kinds of people are loved and celebrated by other Americans. But, if you're a young loud, arrogant and stupid person, you'll find a lot of role models. You even get a lot of loud, arrogant smart people who play stupid because people like that more. I think Canada tends to emphasize humility a lot more than the US. Probably a trait borrowed from the way the upper classes were supposed to behave in the UK. So, you get a lot of skilled people who are humble: Wayne Gretzky, Ryan Reynolds, Keanu Reeves, Steve Nash, Georges St. Pierre, Christine Sinclair, David Suzuki, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Meh, my family's from upstate NY. Canadians have a rep there for being smug and very rude. Definitely not humble. I don't think the difference in culture is all that big but people want to feel unique very badly. I mean NYers also have a rep for being rude. They probably have more in common with Canadians than Texans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I honestly think some Americans aren't used to passive aggression, indirectness or sarcasm. That's why some of you don't get Canadians aren't particularly 'nice'. IME they're always saying sorry and apologizing, but like the brits they don't actually mean it most of the time. In fact, sorry can mean fuck you, depending on the context. From what I understand, the whole 'bless your heart' thing in the American South is similar. That whole thing is also incredibly condescending and smug. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Curious to hear where you went in the US that gave you that impression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have been to Seattle, Montana, Portland, New York, Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Las Vegas, New York, Washington, Arizona, I think a few other states or cities that are escaping me right now. I’ve also lived in tourist towns (I end up working in them when I have to work away, I work construction) and have met many Americans in those places too. Every time I’ve gone to the states I’ve had at least one super negative incident with an American or a group of Americans that’s left a bad taste in my mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago If you get the chance check out Minnesota or Wisconsin, the people there are pretty similar to the Canadians I know. Super nice people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes because that's where all the French people ended up permalink fedilink source parent [–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* As an American, you should. We're willfully toxic garbage all the way down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago* (1 child) You forgot to insert the obligatory national sentence ender: "Sorry". You'll have to be sent off for mandatory re-Caneducation training. Please be sure to arrive wearing your standard issue plaid shirt, and toque. Tim Hortons coffee will be served and there is a 3 three drink minimum. Sorry. Edit: grammer/clarification. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You forgot to insert the obligatory national sentence ender: “Sorry”. That's "Sorry eh", you imposter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Use of "eh" became optional in 1982 when the Charter of Rights and Freedoms came into effect and limited our obligation to use more than one Canadian stereotype in any given sentence, ya hoser. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) You forgot to insert the obligatory national sentence ender: “Sorry”. That's "Sorry eh", you imposter. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Use of "eh" became optional in 1982 when the Charter of Rights and Freedoms came into effect and limited our obligation to use more than one Canadian stereotype in any given sentence, ya hoser. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sway_Chameleon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago Use of "eh" became optional in 1982 when the Charter of Rights and Freedoms came into effect and limited our obligation to use more than one Canadian stereotype in any given sentence, ya hoser. Sorry. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sombyr@lemmy.one 18 points 2 years ago (1 child) As a Vermonter, I also get offended when people think I'm from America. They are correct and I'm not happy about that fact. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, no need to be reminded all the time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago Yeah, no need to be reminded all the time permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oce@jlai.lu 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) But, that's factual permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Breezy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) People born in mexico are also from American(central america). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narp@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) *North America permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on the culture, some consider America as a single entity. North Americans seem to prefer to consider themselves as a whole continent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "America" as a single entity, devoid of qualifiers, is the entirety of North and South America. A massive and diverse swath of Earth with very little in common. I don't see how that's a useful definition, and most English-speakers have agreed so "America" instead is shorthand for the giant country with "America" in its name. We use descriptors because they help. "The Americas" is the whole thing, "North America" is everything from Panama to Canada plus some distant colony islands because this is politics not tectonics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago That's the common use in Latin cultures. That's why I wanted to provide this different point of view. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is only one country in the Americas that has America in the title. Everyone is aware of the continents, but only pompous douchers bring up the "technically, Canada and Mexico are American too" nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if instead of the others being pompous douchers, some people are too self-centred (or nationalists, or imperialists ?) to realize that others may not understand or appreciate how some country-men are monopolizing the demonym of their continent. It seems South Africans are succeeding in not doing that just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep that all sounds super douchey. 99% of people who know the United States and the American continents, will know exactly where you are talking about if you say America. Sorry that displeased you in all your eccentricities and fancy words, but thems the breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago What a tool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago Yep permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) People born in mexico are also from American(central america). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] narp@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) *North America permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on the culture, some consider America as a single entity. North Americans seem to prefer to consider themselves as a whole continent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "America" as a single entity, devoid of qualifiers, is the entirety of North and South America. A massive and diverse swath of Earth with very little in common. I don't see how that's a useful definition, and most English-speakers have agreed so "America" instead is shorthand for the giant country with "America" in its name. We use descriptors because they help. "The Americas" is the whole thing, "North America" is everything from Panama to Canada plus some distant colony islands because this is politics not tectonics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago That's the common use in Latin cultures. That's why I wanted to provide this different point of view. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is only one country in the Americas that has America in the title. Everyone is aware of the continents, but only pompous douchers bring up the "technically, Canada and Mexico are American too" nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if instead of the others being pompous douchers, some people are too self-centred (or nationalists, or imperialists ?) to realize that others may not understand or appreciate how some country-men are monopolizing the demonym of their continent. It seems South Africans are succeeding in not doing that just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep that all sounds super douchey. 99% of people who know the United States and the American continents, will know exactly where you are talking about if you say America. Sorry that displeased you in all your eccentricities and fancy words, but thems the breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago What a tool. permalink fedilink source parent [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago Yep permalink fedilink source parent
[–] narp@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 child) *North America permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on the culture, some consider America as a single entity. North Americans seem to prefer to consider themselves as a whole continent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "America" as a single entity, devoid of qualifiers, is the entirety of North and South America. A massive and diverse swath of Earth with very little in common. I don't see how that's a useful definition, and most English-speakers have agreed so "America" instead is shorthand for the giant country with "America" in its name. We use descriptors because they help. "The Americas" is the whole thing, "North America" is everything from Panama to Canada plus some distant colony islands because this is politics not tectonics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago That's the common use in Latin cultures. That's why I wanted to provide this different point of view. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is only one country in the Americas that has America in the title. Everyone is aware of the continents, but only pompous douchers bring up the "technically, Canada and Mexico are American too" nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if instead of the others being pompous douchers, some people are too self-centred (or nationalists, or imperialists ?) to realize that others may not understand or appreciate how some country-men are monopolizing the demonym of their continent. It seems South Africans are succeeding in not doing that just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep that all sounds super douchey. 99% of people who know the United States and the American continents, will know exactly where you are talking about if you say America. Sorry that displeased you in all your eccentricities and fancy words, but thems the breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago What a tool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 point 2 years ago (2 children) Depends on the culture, some consider America as a single entity. North Americans seem to prefer to consider themselves as a whole continent. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "America" as a single entity, devoid of qualifiers, is the entirety of North and South America. A massive and diverse swath of Earth with very little in common. I don't see how that's a useful definition, and most English-speakers have agreed so "America" instead is shorthand for the giant country with "America" in its name. We use descriptors because they help. "The Americas" is the whole thing, "North America" is everything from Panama to Canada plus some distant colony islands because this is politics not tectonics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago That's the common use in Latin cultures. That's why I wanted to provide this different point of view. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is only one country in the Americas that has America in the title. Everyone is aware of the continents, but only pompous douchers bring up the "technically, Canada and Mexico are American too" nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if instead of the others being pompous douchers, some people are too self-centred (or nationalists, or imperialists ?) to realize that others may not understand or appreciate how some country-men are monopolizing the demonym of their continent. It seems South Africans are succeeding in not doing that just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep that all sounds super douchey. 99% of people who know the United States and the American continents, will know exactly where you are talking about if you say America. Sorry that displeased you in all your eccentricities and fancy words, but thems the breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago What a tool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) "America" as a single entity, devoid of qualifiers, is the entirety of North and South America. A massive and diverse swath of Earth with very little in common. I don't see how that's a useful definition, and most English-speakers have agreed so "America" instead is shorthand for the giant country with "America" in its name. We use descriptors because they help. "The Americas" is the whole thing, "North America" is everything from Panama to Canada plus some distant colony islands because this is politics not tectonics. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago That's the common use in Latin cultures. That's why I wanted to provide this different point of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oce@jlai.lu 0 points 2 years ago That's the common use in Latin cultures. That's why I wanted to provide this different point of view. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -4 points 2 years ago (1 child) There is only one country in the Americas that has America in the title. Everyone is aware of the continents, but only pompous douchers bring up the "technically, Canada and Mexico are American too" nonsense. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if instead of the others being pompous douchers, some people are too self-centred (or nationalists, or imperialists ?) to realize that others may not understand or appreciate how some country-men are monopolizing the demonym of their continent. It seems South Africans are succeeding in not doing that just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep that all sounds super douchey. 99% of people who know the United States and the American continents, will know exactly where you are talking about if you say America. Sorry that displeased you in all your eccentricities and fancy words, but thems the breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago What a tool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) What if instead of the others being pompous douchers, some people are too self-centred (or nationalists, or imperialists ?) to realize that others may not understand or appreciate how some country-men are monopolizing the demonym of their continent. It seems South Africans are succeeding in not doing that just fine. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep that all sounds super douchey. 99% of people who know the United States and the American continents, will know exactly where you are talking about if you say America. Sorry that displeased you in all your eccentricities and fancy words, but thems the breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago What a tool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jelly_mcPB@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yep that all sounds super douchey. 99% of people who know the United States and the American continents, will know exactly where you are talking about if you say America. Sorry that displeased you in all your eccentricities and fancy words, but thems the breaks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 1 point 2 years ago What a tool. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children) Canada is Diet America. Can you blame us? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, that’s how we feel, until we actually go to America and interact with Americans. There is a stark difference between the cultures that isn’t actually apparent until it’s met face to face. Americans are a unique combination of arrogant, loud, and stupid. Not all of them of course, but it’s a large enough amount that you notice a difference when you cross the border. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd say that it's a culture where if you decide to be arrogant, loud and stupid, it's accepted. It's one of the archetypes of how to be American that's generally accepted. It doesn't mean that every American is like that, or that those kinds of people are loved and celebrated by other Americans. But, if you're a young loud, arrogant and stupid person, you'll find a lot of role models. You even get a lot of loud, arrogant smart people who play stupid because people like that more. I think Canada tends to emphasize humility a lot more than the US. Probably a trait borrowed from the way the upper classes were supposed to behave in the UK. So, you get a lot of skilled people who are humble: Wayne Gretzky, Ryan Reynolds, Keanu Reeves, Steve Nash, Georges St. Pierre, Christine Sinclair, David Suzuki, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Meh, my family's from upstate NY. Canadians have a rep there for being smug and very rude. Definitely not humble. I don't think the difference in culture is all that big but people want to feel unique very badly. I mean NYers also have a rep for being rude. They probably have more in common with Canadians than Texans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I honestly think some Americans aren't used to passive aggression, indirectness or sarcasm. That's why some of you don't get Canadians aren't particularly 'nice'. IME they're always saying sorry and apologizing, but like the brits they don't actually mean it most of the time. In fact, sorry can mean fuck you, depending on the context. From what I understand, the whole 'bless your heart' thing in the American South is similar. That whole thing is also incredibly condescending and smug. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Curious to hear where you went in the US that gave you that impression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have been to Seattle, Montana, Portland, New York, Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Las Vegas, New York, Washington, Arizona, I think a few other states or cities that are escaping me right now. I’ve also lived in tourist towns (I end up working in them when I have to work away, I work construction) and have met many Americans in those places too. Every time I’ve gone to the states I’ve had at least one super negative incident with an American or a group of Americans that’s left a bad taste in my mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago If you get the chance check out Minnesota or Wisconsin, the people there are pretty similar to the Canadians I know. Super nice people. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes because that's where all the French people ended up permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children) Yeah, that’s how we feel, until we actually go to America and interact with Americans. There is a stark difference between the cultures that isn’t actually apparent until it’s met face to face. Americans are a unique combination of arrogant, loud, and stupid. Not all of them of course, but it’s a large enough amount that you notice a difference when you cross the border. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd say that it's a culture where if you decide to be arrogant, loud and stupid, it's accepted. It's one of the archetypes of how to be American that's generally accepted. It doesn't mean that every American is like that, or that those kinds of people are loved and celebrated by other Americans. But, if you're a young loud, arrogant and stupid person, you'll find a lot of role models. You even get a lot of loud, arrogant smart people who play stupid because people like that more. I think Canada tends to emphasize humility a lot more than the US. Probably a trait borrowed from the way the upper classes were supposed to behave in the UK. So, you get a lot of skilled people who are humble: Wayne Gretzky, Ryan Reynolds, Keanu Reeves, Steve Nash, Georges St. Pierre, Christine Sinclair, David Suzuki, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Meh, my family's from upstate NY. Canadians have a rep there for being smug and very rude. Definitely not humble. I don't think the difference in culture is all that big but people want to feel unique very badly. I mean NYers also have a rep for being rude. They probably have more in common with Canadians than Texans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I honestly think some Americans aren't used to passive aggression, indirectness or sarcasm. That's why some of you don't get Canadians aren't particularly 'nice'. IME they're always saying sorry and apologizing, but like the brits they don't actually mean it most of the time. In fact, sorry can mean fuck you, depending on the context. From what I understand, the whole 'bless your heart' thing in the American South is similar. That whole thing is also incredibly condescending and smug. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Curious to hear where you went in the US that gave you that impression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have been to Seattle, Montana, Portland, New York, Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Las Vegas, New York, Washington, Arizona, I think a few other states or cities that are escaping me right now. I’ve also lived in tourist towns (I end up working in them when I have to work away, I work construction) and have met many Americans in those places too. Every time I’ve gone to the states I’ve had at least one super negative incident with an American or a group of Americans that’s left a bad taste in my mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago If you get the chance check out Minnesota or Wisconsin, the people there are pretty similar to the Canadians I know. Super nice people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) I'd say that it's a culture where if you decide to be arrogant, loud and stupid, it's accepted. It's one of the archetypes of how to be American that's generally accepted. It doesn't mean that every American is like that, or that those kinds of people are loved and celebrated by other Americans. But, if you're a young loud, arrogant and stupid person, you'll find a lot of role models. You even get a lot of loud, arrogant smart people who play stupid because people like that more. I think Canada tends to emphasize humility a lot more than the US. Probably a trait borrowed from the way the upper classes were supposed to behave in the UK. So, you get a lot of skilled people who are humble: Wayne Gretzky, Ryan Reynolds, Keanu Reeves, Steve Nash, Georges St. Pierre, Christine Sinclair, David Suzuki, etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Meh, my family's from upstate NY. Canadians have a rep there for being smug and very rude. Definitely not humble. I don't think the difference in culture is all that big but people want to feel unique very badly. I mean NYers also have a rep for being rude. They probably have more in common with Canadians than Texans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I honestly think some Americans aren't used to passive aggression, indirectness or sarcasm. That's why some of you don't get Canadians aren't particularly 'nice'. IME they're always saying sorry and apologizing, but like the brits they don't actually mean it most of the time. In fact, sorry can mean fuck you, depending on the context. From what I understand, the whole 'bless your heart' thing in the American South is similar. That whole thing is also incredibly condescending and smug. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* (1 child) Meh, my family's from upstate NY. Canadians have a rep there for being smug and very rude. Definitely not humble. I don't think the difference in culture is all that big but people want to feel unique very badly. I mean NYers also have a rep for being rude. They probably have more in common with Canadians than Texans permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I honestly think some Americans aren't used to passive aggression, indirectness or sarcasm. That's why some of you don't get Canadians aren't particularly 'nice'. IME they're always saying sorry and apologizing, but like the brits they don't actually mean it most of the time. In fact, sorry can mean fuck you, depending on the context. From what I understand, the whole 'bless your heart' thing in the American South is similar. That whole thing is also incredibly condescending and smug. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 1 point 2 years ago I honestly think some Americans aren't used to passive aggression, indirectness or sarcasm. That's why some of you don't get Canadians aren't particularly 'nice'. IME they're always saying sorry and apologizing, but like the brits they don't actually mean it most of the time. In fact, sorry can mean fuck you, depending on the context. From what I understand, the whole 'bless your heart' thing in the American South is similar. That whole thing is also incredibly condescending and smug. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Curious to hear where you went in the US that gave you that impression. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have been to Seattle, Montana, Portland, New York, Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Las Vegas, New York, Washington, Arizona, I think a few other states or cities that are escaping me right now. I’ve also lived in tourist towns (I end up working in them when I have to work away, I work construction) and have met many Americans in those places too. Every time I’ve gone to the states I’ve had at least one super negative incident with an American or a group of Americans that’s left a bad taste in my mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago If you get the chance check out Minnesota or Wisconsin, the people there are pretty similar to the Canadians I know. Super nice people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cruxifux@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 child) I have been to Seattle, Montana, Portland, New York, Tennessee, Texas, Florida, Las Vegas, New York, Washington, Arizona, I think a few other states or cities that are escaping me right now. I’ve also lived in tourist towns (I end up working in them when I have to work away, I work construction) and have met many Americans in those places too. Every time I’ve gone to the states I’ve had at least one super negative incident with an American or a group of Americans that’s left a bad taste in my mouth. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago If you get the chance check out Minnesota or Wisconsin, the people there are pretty similar to the Canadians I know. Super nice people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago If you get the chance check out Minnesota or Wisconsin, the people there are pretty similar to the Canadians I know. Super nice people. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago Yes because that's where all the French people ended up permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago* As an American, you should. We're willfully toxic garbage all the way down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago Ah, the Lisa Simpson stratergy permalink fedilink source parent
[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) I tell them I'm an American when asked. People are fundamentally the same regardless of where they live, and anyone that judges anyone else based on their nationality is being an ignorant jackass. I handle it as such with the appropriate tact for the situation -- most people are cool. The ones that aren't are morons and not worth wasting time on. permalink fedilink source parent