β² 1411 βΌ Linus does not fuck around (lemmy.one) submitted 2 years ago by AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 490 comments fedilink hide all child comments An oldie, but a goodie
[β] crackajack@reddthat.com 35 points 2 years ago (5 children) You can be angry without being rude. I'd much prefer passive aggressiveness than egregious blame-shifting and accusations. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [β] oce@jlai.lu 58 points 2 years ago (3 children) You don't need to be passive agressive either, you can just be polite and factual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [β] crackajack@reddthat.com 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well put. My boss had been polite and factual when she gets "angry". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Exactly. I've worked under terrible managers and some great ones. Great ones get pissed off but they never, ever try and let emotions out. They were all to the point and knew what worked for every guy. permalink fedilink source parent [β] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is she impolite when she is not angry? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] crackajack@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago No, not at all. I appreciate that of her. She doesn't even look scary when I'm being told off. Which is why I put the word angry in quotation marks. She tries to sound angry and look scary but we kind of brush it off. Not that I didn't respect her authority. permalink fedilink source parent [β] uis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago But don't be too factual or you will be Linus permalink fedilink source parent [+] WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 2 years ago Being directly a cunt actually causes sabotaging employees who work the minimum letter of the contract until they can quit via a text 5 minutes after start of day because they got another job lined up. Dumb managers poison the well by acting like this. permalink fedilink source parent [β] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) If you can't express yourself without expletives, it just means you have a small vocabulary or lack the maturity to express yourself without getting emotional, or both. It is a major sign of incompetence, unprofessionalism, and ignorance. Direct != being an asshole. If you don't understand that, you have a lot to learn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] onlinepersona@programming.dev -3 points 2 years ago* I think it's hilarious that you don't understand synonyms. Edit: nor expletives permalink fedilink source parent [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Amelioration of interpersonal relationships ain't to be fucking had by the proposed means of compelling into contempt the employment of vulgar idiom. permalink fedilink source parent [β] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (4 children) I hate passive-aggressiveness, because I want to know what people really think of me. How can you feel secure if you know that somebody might secretly hate you and is just waiting for the right time to put a knife in your back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago Both are bad IMO. Sometimes when morale is low, you don't need constant berating to break your spirit. permalink fedilink source parent [β] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago Being polite doesn't mean being passive-aggressive. I can tell you that I completely disagree with your opinion without calling you "a brainless ape that should've fucking stayed in school because your dumb ass cannot comprehend the simplest matters". permalink fedilink source parent [β] outcide@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago THIS SO MANY TIMES. permalink fedilink source parent [β] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 years ago If you cant tell the difference between passive aggression and politeness, you gotta talk to someone about learning. Big big big difference there. permalink fedilink source parent [β] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, that's a hard pass on passive aggressiveness, constructive criticism isn't either of those things nor rude and angry ranting. Love Linus, but he really did need to chill out a bit more with these things. He could have gotten the same point across without coming across as yelling at the guy, just firmly pointing out that it was caused by the patch, the patch did things it shouldn't ever do, and don't break userspace or blame userspace programs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah this kind of attitude is never a productive strategy unless you want to surround yourself only with assholes. It also demonstrates a complete lack of ability to manage humans and keep your values straight when you become upset and stressed out, which is a massive red flag to hold up as someone running a project. In general it seems like a lot of people get into computers because they think it is a magic fantasy land where you don't have to practice people skills and interact with other humans.... when like every other industry after a certain seniority in a project it always, always, always comes down to managing humans and human interaction skills. The idea of the tech wizard programmer who can be an asshole because they are a genius at coding is just so tired at this point. permalink fedilink source parent [β] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I won't down vote you for your opinion but I do disagree with you. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] oce@jlai.lu 58 points 2 years ago (3 children) You don't need to be passive agressive either, you can just be polite and factual. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [β] crackajack@reddthat.com 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well put. My boss had been polite and factual when she gets "angry". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Exactly. I've worked under terrible managers and some great ones. Great ones get pissed off but they never, ever try and let emotions out. They were all to the point and knew what worked for every guy. permalink fedilink source parent [β] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is she impolite when she is not angry? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] crackajack@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago No, not at all. I appreciate that of her. She doesn't even look scary when I'm being told off. Which is why I put the word angry in quotation marks. She tries to sound angry and look scary but we kind of brush it off. Not that I didn't respect her authority. permalink fedilink source parent [β] uis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago But don't be too factual or you will be Linus permalink fedilink source parent
[+] RagingHungryPanda@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] crackajack@reddthat.com 10 points 2 years ago (2 children) Well put. My boss had been polite and factual when she gets "angry". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Exactly. I've worked under terrible managers and some great ones. Great ones get pissed off but they never, ever try and let emotions out. They were all to the point and knew what worked for every guy. permalink fedilink source parent [β] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is she impolite when she is not angry? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] crackajack@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago No, not at all. I appreciate that of her. She doesn't even look scary when I'm being told off. Which is why I put the word angry in quotation marks. She tries to sound angry and look scary but we kind of brush it off. Not that I didn't respect her authority. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago Exactly. I've worked under terrible managers and some great ones. Great ones get pissed off but they never, ever try and let emotions out. They were all to the point and knew what worked for every guy. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] uis@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 child) Is she impolite when she is not angry? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] crackajack@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago No, not at all. I appreciate that of her. She doesn't even look scary when I'm being told off. Which is why I put the word angry in quotation marks. She tries to sound angry and look scary but we kind of brush it off. Not that I didn't respect her authority. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] crackajack@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago No, not at all. I appreciate that of her. She doesn't even look scary when I'm being told off. Which is why I put the word angry in quotation marks. She tries to sound angry and look scary but we kind of brush it off. Not that I didn't respect her authority. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] uis@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago But don't be too factual or you will be Linus permalink fedilink source parent
[+] WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 2 years ago Being directly a cunt actually causes sabotaging employees who work the minimum letter of the contract until they can quit via a text 5 minutes after start of day because they got another job lined up. Dumb managers poison the well by acting like this. permalink fedilink source parent [β] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) If you can't express yourself without expletives, it just means you have a small vocabulary or lack the maturity to express yourself without getting emotional, or both. It is a major sign of incompetence, unprofessionalism, and ignorance. Direct != being an asshole. If you don't understand that, you have a lot to learn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] onlinepersona@programming.dev -3 points 2 years ago* I think it's hilarious that you don't understand synonyms. Edit: nor expletives permalink fedilink source parent [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Amelioration of interpersonal relationships ain't to be fucking had by the proposed means of compelling into contempt the employment of vulgar idiom. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 2 years ago Being directly a cunt actually causes sabotaging employees who work the minimum letter of the contract until they can quit via a text 5 minutes after start of day because they got another job lined up. Dumb managers poison the well by acting like this. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (2 children) If you can't express yourself without expletives, it just means you have a small vocabulary or lack the maturity to express yourself without getting emotional, or both. It is a major sign of incompetence, unprofessionalism, and ignorance. Direct != being an asshole. If you don't understand that, you have a lot to learn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] onlinepersona@programming.dev -3 points 2 years ago* I think it's hilarious that you don't understand synonyms. Edit: nor expletives permalink fedilink source parent [β] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Amelioration of interpersonal relationships ain't to be fucking had by the proposed means of compelling into contempt the employment of vulgar idiom. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] WoodlandAlliance@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] onlinepersona@programming.dev -3 points 2 years ago* I think it's hilarious that you don't understand synonyms. Edit: nor expletives permalink fedilink source parent
[β] onlinepersona@programming.dev -3 points 2 years ago* I think it's hilarious that you don't understand synonyms. Edit: nor expletives permalink fedilink source parent
[β] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago Amelioration of interpersonal relationships ain't to be fucking had by the proposed means of compelling into contempt the employment of vulgar idiom. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] voidMainVoid@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (4 children) I hate passive-aggressiveness, because I want to know what people really think of me. How can you feel secure if you know that somebody might secretly hate you and is just waiting for the right time to put a knife in your back? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [β] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago Both are bad IMO. Sometimes when morale is low, you don't need constant berating to break your spirit. permalink fedilink source parent [β] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago Being polite doesn't mean being passive-aggressive. I can tell you that I completely disagree with your opinion without calling you "a brainless ape that should've fucking stayed in school because your dumb ass cannot comprehend the simplest matters". permalink fedilink source parent [β] outcide@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago THIS SO MANY TIMES. permalink fedilink source parent [β] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 years ago If you cant tell the difference between passive aggression and politeness, you gotta talk to someone about learning. Big big big difference there. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago Both are bad IMO. Sometimes when morale is low, you don't need constant berating to break your spirit. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] onlinepersona@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago Being polite doesn't mean being passive-aggressive. I can tell you that I completely disagree with your opinion without calling you "a brainless ape that should've fucking stayed in school because your dumb ass cannot comprehend the simplest matters". permalink fedilink source parent
[β] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 0 points 2 years ago If you cant tell the difference between passive aggression and politeness, you gotta talk to someone about learning. Big big big difference there. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 years ago (1 child) Yeah, that's a hard pass on passive aggressiveness, constructive criticism isn't either of those things nor rude and angry ranting. Love Linus, but he really did need to chill out a bit more with these things. He could have gotten the same point across without coming across as yelling at the guy, just firmly pointing out that it was caused by the patch, the patch did things it shouldn't ever do, and don't break userspace or blame userspace programs permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah this kind of attitude is never a productive strategy unless you want to surround yourself only with assholes. It also demonstrates a complete lack of ability to manage humans and keep your values straight when you become upset and stressed out, which is a massive red flag to hold up as someone running a project. In general it seems like a lot of people get into computers because they think it is a magic fantasy land where you don't have to practice people skills and interact with other humans.... when like every other industry after a certain seniority in a project it always, always, always comes down to managing humans and human interaction skills. The idea of the tech wizard programmer who can be an asshole because they are a genius at coding is just so tired at this point. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) Yeah this kind of attitude is never a productive strategy unless you want to surround yourself only with assholes. It also demonstrates a complete lack of ability to manage humans and keep your values straight when you become upset and stressed out, which is a massive red flag to hold up as someone running a project. In general it seems like a lot of people get into computers because they think it is a magic fantasy land where you don't have to practice people skills and interact with other humans.... when like every other industry after a certain seniority in a project it always, always, always comes down to managing humans and human interaction skills. The idea of the tech wizard programmer who can be an asshole because they are a genius at coding is just so tired at this point. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago I won't down vote you for your opinion but I do disagree with you. permalink fedilink source parent