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Who's winning the war in Ukraine? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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The media won't give me great answers to this question and I think this I trust this community more, thus I want to know from you. Also, I have heard reports that Russia was winning the war, if that's true, did the west miscalculate the situation by allowing diplomacy to take a backseat and allowing Ukraine to a large plethora of military resources?

PS: I realize there are many casualties on both sides and I am not trying to downplay the suffering, but I am curious as to how it is going for Ukraine. Right now I am hearing ever louder calls of Russia winning, those have existed forever, but they seem to have grown louder now, so I was wondering what you thought about it. Also, I am somewhat concerned of allowing a dictatorship to just erase at it's convenience a free and democratic country.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How is rebuilding a country equivalent to slicing it up?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Slicing it up like slicing a cake. Dividing up the profits between themselves. Rebuilding a country doesn't happen for free you know. There's no depths to the debt the west can plunge Ukraine into over this war, unless we force Russia to pay. I hear they have lots of oil.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

What a terrible analogy. It implies that "rebuilding" Ukraine will actually involve destroying it just because people are paid to do the work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Ukraine will likely lack the money to pay for the work for decades, so they'll likely have to compromise with treaties and concessions beyond the reconstruction work. The more likely result will be a very weak government that'll have to concede to several wants of the companies working there, who will use their money to put political EU pressure on Ukraine.

It implies that “rebuilding” Ukraine will actually involve destroying it just because people are paid to do the work.

You can only rebuild what has been damaged or destroyed and the companies that offered help see future profits going up with every building that crumbles. None of them are doing anything out of goodwill, they just see money to be made.