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Just checked the study and it's already adjusted for population. https://bmjmedicine.bmj.com/content/2/1/e000499
I don't understand why you'd jump to the assumption that they didn't factor in such an obvious thing, especially since the researcher already lists possible explanations for the discrepency in the article:
Well, that's the thing. I didn't jump to that conclusion. I can see how the way I worded it may make it seem that way though.
And that passage is part of my point. The title makes it seem like being poor will make you more likely to be trans, while the study itself in fact says the opposite. That there are a number of different explanations for their observations, and that one shouldn't draw the conclusion that being poor makes you trans. The title of the article is clickbait at best, and intentionally misleading at worst.
I'd been thinking the title meant trans people are more likely to be poor. And because I'd recently seen a meme about right-wingers blaming LGBTQ people for things, thought this was a good article some of those right-wingers might need to see. Like, look, you can't blame trans people for your problems because they're also likely to be poor. But I might be assuming a lot about how things might be interpreted here, because I did not expect all this, lol.
Not sure how old you are or how jaded by society you are just yet, but conservatives don't come to their positions from facts and logic. They hold their positions because conservative media has fanned their fear of the unknown. Conservatives are deeply emotional, and aren't going to be convinced by any kind of studies or data to renounce their positions.
To provide an example, the infamous 41% statistic was referenced in this study. 41% referring to the stat that 41% of trans people have contemplated suicide ever. Conservatives don't take this stat as an indicator that "hey things are kinda fucked up. we should be nicer to trans people!", they take it to mean that "all trans people are mentally ill psychos and shouldn't be allowed to make decisions for themselves or exist. You can't be mentally ill if you're not trans and this stat proves it!"
OP, your heart might have been in the right place, but my opinion is that it's pointless to try to convince conservatives that they're wrong.
Damn, I see what you're saying now. I'm almost 30 and I'd say I'm jaded lol but being on the autism spectrum/general brainweirdness means I don't interpret the world the way most people do and need some help understanding what normal people see. What I would think is common sense or logical or even easy to understand is just not most people's experience, and vice versa-- what others think are obvious (in social situations especially) don't even occur to me until someone points it out. I find things out the hard way most of the time. Thanks for clearing things up.