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“There’s just a lot of people in this country that don’t want to work, period,” Rep. Virginia Foxx said during a hearing about people who work too much.

House Republicans held a hearing Wednesday throwing cold water on President Joe Biden’s plan to give more workers overtime protections.

Even though the hearing was about employees who work long hours, the GOP chair of the House Committee on Education & the Workforce took a moment to argue that too many Americans don’t want to work at all.

“There’s just a lot of people in this country that don’t want to work, period … and want other people to take care of them,” said Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.).

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Why is politician even a career? It should be the lowest paying job.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It shouldn't be a career, but it should also be paid relatively well.

See, if you take away the pay, then only the very rich could ever afford to be politicians, and the very rich are not the sort of people you want in charge of a country...

Case in point, this very article.

Also, when you don't pay politicians, you end up paying them anyway through outright corruption. Which is already a problem, don't make it worse.

The better solution is a consecutive term limit. You can be elected as many times as you can pull it off, just not in a row. You have to go spend a term in your home district every other term or so. So two on, one off.

As a bonus, this two on, one off setup would result in a lot of turnover without forcing every single person in congress to learn how to be in congress every term.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Case in point, this very article.

But they are paid well. This happened anyway

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, there are a bunch of corrupt bastards. But there are also quite a few who actually seem to give a damn.

Cut away the pay, and then the only people who could ever afford to be politicians would be the people just like the clueless old lady from the article. i.e. the rich.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I dunno what kinda folks you think are in congress. They're all rich. Its not a matter of being able to afford living as an elected official, they have to afford winning an election.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Everyone in the progressive caucus seem to be good.

No real complaints about any of them. They constantly push for good shit.

And if they weren't paid, you might not have as many of them.

No, the absolute only people you'd have in congress would be rich assholes from rich families.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

https://www.npr.org/2022/12/09/1141635119/the-first-gen-z-member-of-congress-was-denied-a-d-c-apartment-due-to-bad-credit

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/18/nyregion/albany-lawmakers-housemates.html

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/3794921-incoming-generation-z-congressman-says-he-may-couch-surf-after-being-denied-dc-apartment/

https://nypost.com/2018/05/01/these-politicians-are-sleeping-in-their-dc-offices-to-save-money/

Two things:

"Congress" isn't just the Senate, in this context it refers to both houses (or usually, just the House of Representatives). Different people, often with very different backgrounds than "blue blooded," Ivy League legacy senators.

Many of these people (particularly the actual grassroots ones who aren't being funded by outside interests) don't come from wealth, and were normal, working class people prior to their political career.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

If you don't pay them well, only the wealthy can afford it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Maybe we should just have mandatory service and rotate through citizens at random every couple years like jury duty. Give me a N-week course on civics before they get started and let 'em do their best.