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Suuure, let me know when Revit, Civil 3D, ArcGIS, OpenRoads Designer are operable and supported on Linux.
I knoooooooow. I know arcgis is working on it at least. I'm a geologist, a ton of our geospatial programs require windows.
But I'm about ready to experiment with a dual joot for my home set up! I really never need windows for that anymore
Postgis and Qgis don't require windows. ArcGIS is such bloat ware. They live by the cult following rather than merit.
I mean yeah, same with adobe and loads of other enterprise software suites. Unfortunately, most of us have no way of convincing our enterprise to move off of their shitty suite. I personally use open his for as much as possible, but professionally I'm stuck with what my work makes me use.
How did you get arc working on Linux?
See @applebusch@lemmy. world's comment in this same chain.
Portal isn't ArcPro :s
The future is now old man.
https://enterprise.arcgis.com/en/portal/latest/install/linux/welcome-to-the-portal-for-arcgis-installation-guide.htm
Looks like the other three aren't natively supported though.
A bunch of our civil engs happily use qGIS.
I've noticed Ala lot of the features on ArcGIS actually originate from qGIS after having built some mapping tools.
Ah, I didn't know that about ArcGIS!
Still, the others are arguably more important to the civil industry as a whole. I personally don't believe Autodesk or Bentley will ever support Linux, so us civil folks are stuck.
Not many users need those.
I have 800 users at my work that would say otherwise. Those are software that the entire civil engineering, geospatial, and architectural world rely on to make infrastructure. So, I'd say many users need those.
A professional environment will certainly have requirements that differ from the common people.
Yep. From my point of view, it would be nice to at least have to option to switch users over. Tired of Microsoft's shit.
Yes but it's relative. I have 800 users right here that doesn't use any of that stuff. Just saying it's not really a block for 99% of users because all they do is surf the web and play games.
Over a hundred million people use Autodesk products; Bentley systems is around the same size. Entire essential industries are built on these software. Pinning that all on 1% is disingenuous.
My overall point is that until Linux or the software developers do something about the incompatibility/nonsupport, Windows is here to stay. Some of us have no choice.
Does Wine not work for those tools?
Exactly what I was wondering. I main Linux since 2019. A buddy of mine sent me a unity demo game that he made ( basically a hello world ). I just did
wine hello-world.exeand it ran just fine ( auto downloaded .net runtimes and everything ).I don't expect everything to run flawlessly, but wine has come a long way. Especially with valve support and investment into proton for gaming.
When you're working on enterprise level stuff, it can be difficult to run any software that you want. There are layers upon layers of accountability that are needed for legal purposes.
Good luck getting support for commercial software if you're running it under wine.
Oh I didn't realize that wine was so bad at supporting Windows applications. I'm not a frequent user of it so I just knew it as a "replacement" for windows apps.
It's not that wine is bad at supporting Windows applications necessarily. If you (or your company) buys software that supports some versions of Windows and you open a support ticket with some issue running in Linux under wine, that's a ticket that will likely be closed fast as an unsupported configuration.
Every person with a job needs some kind of app which doesn't work on Linux. If you're a teen still studying in school, then yeah, use Linux.
I use Windows at work (it is a corporate laptop) but I don't use a single app which is Windows-only and irreplaceable. My current job isn't technology-focused, and I don't really use anything except standard office-related software.
In my previous job I was a software engineer and also used Windows (same reason; corporate laptop) but again everything I used would have worked in Linux.
People should use whatever platform works best for them. I'm a Linux user at heart, but I'm all for using Windows if that's the right tool for the job. But it's not a "grown ups need Windows only teenagers can use Linux" thing. Most working people would do fine with Linux or Mac.