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The problem with this line of thinking, as well as the point the OP's meme makes, is that it's drawing a line between the two in the first place, when in fact there can be significant overlap.
A quick dictionary lookup yields this for terrorism: "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims." Note that "especially against civilians" doesn't mean it has to be, just that civilians being involved makes it a stronger case.
Now, you may have already spotted the issue, but here it is anyway: this is an incredibly broad definition. Laws don't bind those in other states, so ANY act of violence or intimidation is unlawful.
So...freedom fighters fight using violence, against the laws of the country that claims sovereignty over them... so they're terrorists. Full stop. This doesn't mean that we should or shouldn't support them, it just means that the definition of terrorism is pretty useless.
There is zero evidence that this did happen
There is zero evidence that this did happen
That does not accurately describes Hamas' motivations. The Palestinians had their land stolen from them, and are slowly being killed, over decades. They want that to stop.
That does not accurately describe Israel's motivations either; they don't want vengeance, they want the land and the Palestinians gone
Beyond the fact you seem to have a comic-book-level outlook of these events, you're also putting on the same level a successful military operation that resulted in a comparatively small amount of civilian deaths as collateral victims (not to mention we still don't have a clue of many of those Israeli civilians were killed by the IDF, but it's definitely in the double digits at least) and an ongoing genocide, which is pretty disgusting
I can't open a single link you provided, they all ask me to install a shitty app in order to view the content. Can't even preview the channel itself (contrary to most telegram channels), so there isn't much to discuss here; but I'm fairly confident I can guess some of the videos you linked based on your inane descriptions though, I've watched the same; and for those I'm guessing at, at least, they definitely don't show what you say they do
If you think the resistance forces' objective on October 7th was to "kill people randomly", you're a child. It was a carefully prepared military operation that specifically targeted key military bases as well as several illegal settlements to obtain hostages - historically the only way for those same forces to manage the liberation of hundreds of Palestinians being tortured (among other things) in Israeli jails. Hostages that, I might add, were by all accounts very well treated while in custody in Gaza.
And nobody's denying there were civilians deaths, by the way; collateral damage will happen in a war. And there are also Palestinians civilians that went into occupied territory and probably showed less restraint than the actual trained resistance forces; when you keep people in a giant concentration camp and the inmates suddenly escape that sort of thing will happen. If you want to point the finger at someone for these deaths, point it towards the Zionist regime and its insane racist project, they're the one responsible for all of this.
And again, and finally, we still don't know how many Israeli civilians the joint Palestinian forces actually killed, because it has become clear since then that the IDF killed a lot of them as well that day.
First of all, that comment needs CWs. Second of all, do you really expect people to believe some random Telegram channel called "Hamas Atrocities Documentation Center Report Oct 7"?
