this post was submitted on 24 Nov 2023
413 points (88.5% liked)

linuxmemes

21263 readers
506 users here now

Hint: :q!

Sister communities:

Community rules (click to expand)

1. Follow the site-wide rules

2. Be civil
  • Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
  • Do not harrass or attack members of the community for any reason.
  • Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
  • Bigotry will not be tolerated.
  • These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
    • 3. Post Linux-related content
  • Including Unix and BSD.
  • Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of sudo in Windows.
  • No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
    • 4. No recent reposts
  • Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.

    • Please report posts and comments that break these rules!

    founded 1 year ago
    MODERATORS
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    [email protected]
    413
    big deal (jlai.lu)
    submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
    94 comments fedilink hide all child comments
     
    you are viewing a single comment's thread
    view the rest of the comments
    [โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    The argument would be that on Linux, the majority of user-facing interactions are with GNU software, not the kernel.

    Also, without GNU, Linux probably wouldn't even exist, at last not in its current form. GNU was already a mature toolchain when Linus started working on Linux. So it's all well and good to point out that Linux can get pulled out and combined with other toolchain, but you can say the same with GNU. It's out there running with BSD and Darwin. And BSD might not have a ton of direct users, but it's extremely important for servers.

    You don't need Linux to run a free operating system, which was the goal of GNU, it really doesn't matter that Hurd was never completed. The goal was achieved so there hasn't been much incentive to develop Hurd.

    I personally don't care what people call it, but I do think GNU deserves the recognition. Especially because some of their tools are extremely important, like gcc. Linux might not exist if gnu hadn't provided a functional toolset for an operating system. Hell if it wasn't for GNU, we might not have a free OS at all.

    [โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

    Without GNU, we'd probably be using variants of FreeBSD or similar, possibly even porting that toolchain to run on Linux kernel... I mean, their contribution was important, but so were a lot of other people and projects