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For those of us still naive ... Why does Lemmy say "Ubuntu bad" now?
Because Canonical bad.
Care to elaborate?
/sarcasm
The problem is also that the hosting software for snaps, the backend that canonical has is P R O P R I E T A R Y and that’s one of the main gripes.
I see proprietaty bad.
I hit like..
I am simple as that.
Serving files over HTTPS is not difficult to implement If anyone cared. Even if the cloud backend was open source you still wouldn't use it. Downvote now!
Apply the same argument to that.
I'll add one more grip: Amazon integration. It's been resolved for like 7 years now, but I still hold it against them a bit for placing Amazon search results in my desktop all those years back. Not that I don't have an Ubuntu server running as we speak, but it still does taint them a tad in my eyes (and probably acts as an anachronism to the "it's a corporate distro" theme of dislike around here).
Ooof. That hurt.
I don't like Ubuntu for one reason:
ubuntu-advantage-tools.Ahh, okay, so nothing new under the sun: Hipsters hate normies and September never ended.
Although I'm under the impression that Mint and Pop have taken a bite out of the "beginner desktop" market, Ubuntu is most of what I observe in the office when everybody else is booting Windows.
I can understand selecting for novelty; I'm usually in that camp. But novelty shouldn't come at the expense of an argument to IT departments that they should support at least one Linux distro.
Proprietary snap store backend that is controlled by Canonical: that's it.
I used Ubuntu for years: installed it for family and friends. I moved away around a year ago.
Moving packages like Firefox to snap was what first started annoying me.
If the backend was open source, and the community could have hosted their own (like how flatpak repositories can be), I might have been slightly more forgiving.
Did a quick Google to find if someone had elaborated, here's a good one:
Snap is just one case where Ubuntu is annoying.
It is also a commercial distribution. If you ever used a community distribution like Arch, Gentoo or even Debian, then you will notice that they much more encourage participation. You can contribute your ideas and work without requiring to sign any CLAs.
Because Ubuntu wants to control/own parts of the system, they tend to, rather then contributing to existing solutions, create their own, often subpar, software, that requires CLAs. See upstart vs openrc or later systemd, Mir vs Wayland, which they both later adopted anyway, Unity vs Gnome, snap vs flatpak, microk8 vs k3s, bazar vs git or mercurial, ... The NIH syndrom is pretty strong in Ubuntu. And even if Ubuntu came first with some of these solutions, the community had to create the alternative because they where controlling it.