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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Imagine if she decided to run for mayor or state senator or even congress. She might actually have a chance. Instead, it's always president or nothing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Yep. That's one of the many things that highlights how fraudulent the Green Party is.

They aren't interested in winning elections where they might be able to, or generally making real shifts in policy. They're only interested in splintering the most naive leftists away from the Democratic presidential candidate every 4 years. I only imagine the power players in that party collect a nice fat bag of cash and then sit back with their feet up until the start of the next presidential election cycle.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not like the Green party has a shot at the presidency at all. If they wanted to make a difference they could caucus with Democrats and try to push them to the left.

But no it's just about brand awareness for goofy pseudoscience bullshit. And of course making it more likely that Trump will win.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Better yet, democrats could caucus with 3rd parties. That whole 'push them left' is bullshit that never happens. We heard that in 2020 and we ended up with another neolib that's condoning and funding ethnic cleansing.

We've done it the liberal way for decades and that doesn't work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The party has moved demonstrably left in even the last decade.

And it does caucus with non Democrats. You've got Bernie and Angus King. There's a socialist in Virginia too. I think Sinema actually started out that way too, as a Green. Clearly, if a third party candidate can win in the primaries, Democrats are fine supporting them, or at least not running a spoiler.

The key part is winning a primary. If they can't get the majority of Democrat voters, they aren't going to come close to winning a general.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

she has run in other elections and won, but it's inconvenient to this line of attack to acknowledge it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In 2005, Stein set her sights locally, running for the Lexington Town Meeting, a representative town meeting, the local legislative body in Lexington, Massachusetts (pop 34k). Stein was elected to one of seven seats in Precinct 2. She finished first of 16 candidates, receiving 539 votes (20.6%). Stein was reelected in 2008, finishing second of 13 vying for eight seats.

I don't find anything "inconvenient" about acknowledging both local elections she won. If anything, it bolsters their position. She should run for Mayor or perhaps state senate. The two elections she actually won demonstrate just how comically unqualified Jill Stein is for the presidency.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

She's won local elections, and you don't go from local to president. Until the Greens realize this and start building from the ground up in every state, they're nothing more than a joke.