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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cats cant pronounce that tough, so it has to count all of those in a socialist's name.

In other news have you seen the latest royal wedding? So beautiful and glamorous, makes me feel blessed to have monarchs ruling over us!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I like when the prince ripped off the princess’s arm and shoved it into her ass.

A beautiful day for Canada and therefore the world.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey, i hate the british too, but the article doesn't directly blame the british for the famines and it also includes famines that took place in non-british held or administrated territories.

Nevertheless, it does point out that in many cases, british administration worsened the situation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Nevertheless, it does point out that in many cases, british administration worsened the situation.

To be fair... They were only practising for how they'd treat modern Britain.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It also just one territory, I'm sure the Irish also have a few bones to pick.

Though speaking of time advantage, the best answer might be "mosquitos", and while "blood sucking insects" could be a name for british colonists, they didn't spread malaria since the dawn of humanity

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fairness we've been around a lot longer, but it is impressive how one little island nation has managed to fuck so much shit up from afar.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think that Queen Victoria would rank pretty in the body count scoreboard

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep, anyone saying otherwise is doing mental gymnastics.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or simply keeping with the theme of answers being a single individual and not an entire nation of hundreds of millions of people spanning centuries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Fair enough to be honest. I hate Mao, Genghis Khan, Hitler and Stalin too for being genocidal fucks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is it Mr the brits or Mrs the brits?

Ohhhh, you're conflating a single leader with an entire country.

You must be a lib, tankies say libs never argue in good faith, and your false equivalence is certainly in bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Until recently it was Mrs. Now it's Mr or alternatively his majesty king Charles the 3rd.

Is there enough reliable data to give a kill count for the different monarchs? It would be kind of interesting who scores highest in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Exactly! Mao was one leader, England killed millions, sure, but that was spread over many many rulers.

Mao stands at the top afaik, I'd love to see some stats though!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jesse what tf are you talking about

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Mocking a tankie with tankie logic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

We were all pretty cool with it all at the time tbh.

Plenty of us will still defend it, which is crazy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can hardly blame them, pestilence and diseases are a genuine concern for any empire where armed forces have to move far distances over land or sea

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Can definitely blame them... Several of the famines in their 'empire' were either engineered, caused through incompetence or arrogance, or ignored when preventable.

Ref: Any of bengal's several famines under British rule, frankly even after once you take Churchill into account.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nice shoehorn of anglo-saxon history, but those famines are all plagues and crop faliures for the most part.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why is it the rich never starve if it's just a totally unaccountable natural disaster?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Rich usually have more resources and ability to purchase them at elevated prices. Hope that helps

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they have money duuh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So it's less of a natural disaster and more of an economic disaster? I wonder why people would blame governments for that...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is like miles away from the intentional economical engineering we are talking about. Still not sure why you are so bent on trying to wiggle them into a comparsion between regimes and personnel more direct, intentional and immediate like Mao or Stalin.

If you dont distinguish from those, then why even have a debate on them?

The joke implied that the question intended to ask one or very few directly involved personnel and you disregarded that. Thats it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right sure, when the British intentionally abuse Ireland and India it's really just a whoopsie-daisy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should I really do the same kind of jumping to conclusions?

Are you saying that the largest completely man made famine ever does not really deserve that much of a recognition?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nope. I'm just saying they're all "man-made".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The rich and the party cadres

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They forced farmers to grow indigo crops instead of natural cotton/wheat/rice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Im pretty sure that was not during the drought itself, nor really caused it. It economically made sense and then probably exacerbated the famine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It wasn't just the drought. Indigo cropping destroyed the soil first, drought exacerbated the problems.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All famines are crop failures. That's kinda how famines happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No

A famine is a widespread scarcity of food,[1][2] caused by several factors including war, natural disasters, crop failure, widespread poverty, an economic catastrophe or government policies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I suppose you can consider getting your crops blown up a crop failure