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So... rather than just cursing/condemning all Zionists, why do Ansarallah/"Houthis" curse/condemn all Jews instead? (lemmygrad.ml)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I read that as persecution.

This has to be a bit. In what world are these two not exactly the same? It sounds exactly the same as the genocide one to me.

If anything, Jewish people have the greater claim to persecution given the literal Holocaust had just happened.

(Edit: Please do not misconstrue this comment to be justifying Israel's actions.)

Edit 2: You decided to completely edit out the text of your previous comment where you claimed when Christian people do the same thing, it's only persecution.

Whatever you think about the original question, presenting the claim that things would be somehow better if it were Christians without qualification that you don't agree with those views is justifying the genocides Christians have done, including the actual Holocaust itself.

how it has to expand it’s numbers and territory

I don't think this is a belief of Judaism. If you're referring to the baby boom, that was by no means isolated to Jews in any way. Perhaps you're confusing it with Christianity, which actually does believe this as part of the faith?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If anything, Jewish people have the greater claim to persecution given the literal Holocaust had just happened.

How would the Jewish people have a greater claim according to the Houthis who likely know very little about events in Europe or even care?

Again, I am reiterating how people there would have issue with Judaism as a religion and would curse the Jews and again, it's because of how Judaism is different from Islam and Christianity. Islam allows new adherents, in fact, most Houthis would probably at least admit their people weren't always Islamic. For them, it would appear at least at face value that Judaism is a religion that promotes genocides because when they take land, it necessitates the removal of the natives.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Since you revised your parent comment, I revised mine.

For them, it would appear at least at face value that Judaism is a religion that promotes genocides because when they take land, it necessitates the removal of the natives.

I could definitely see people falling for the Zionism = Judaism thing especially in the land controlled by Israel.

How would the Jewish people have a greater claim according to the Houthis who likely know very little about events in Europe or even care?

That said, a "greater claim" than who? I was speaking in context of your comment comparing Judaism and Christianity, and I still think even they would believe Jews had a greater claim to persecution than if the US military (or any other third party really) were to show up and started doing genocide purportedly because Jesus needs Christians in control of the Holy Land.