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So... rather than just cursing/condemning all Zionists, why do Ansarallah/"Houthis" curse/condemn all Jews instead? (lemmygrad.ml)
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[–] -5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

If anything, Jewish people have the greater claim to persecution given the literal Holocaust had just happened.

How would the Jewish people have a greater claim according to the Houthis who likely know very little about events in Europe or even care?

Again, I am reiterating how people there would have issue with Judaism as a religion and would curse the Jews and again, it's because of how Judaism is different from Islam and Christianity. Islam allows new adherents, in fact, most Houthis would probably at least admit their people weren't always Islamic. For them, it would appear at least at face value that Judaism is a religion that promotes genocides because when they take land, it necessitates the removal of the natives.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

    Since you revised your parent comment, I revised mine.

    For them, it would appear at least at face value that Judaism is a religion that promotes genocides because when they take land, it necessitates the removal of the natives.

    I could definitely see people falling for the Zionism = Judaism thing especially in the land controlled by Israel.

    How would the Jewish people have a greater claim according to the Houthis who likely know very little about events in Europe or even care?

    That said, a "greater claim" than who? I was speaking in context of your comment comparing Judaism and Christianity, and I still think even they would believe Jews had a greater claim to persecution than if the US military (or any other third party really) were to show up and started doing genocide purportedly because Jesus needs Christians in control of the Holy Land.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child)

    even they would believe Jews had a greater claim to persecution than if the US military were to show up and started doing genocide purportedly because Jesus needs Christians in control of the Holy Land.

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    That is not the comparison I am making. The point I am trying to make is that a religion that does not welcome you as a believer is going to be more concerning to a person than a religion that does. A Houthi cannot become a Jew (for the most part). A Palestinian Muslim, even if their ancestors were Jewish 1000 years ago cannot become a Jew again (at least according to the way Israel has been conducting itself). And for those reason, it makes sense that Judaism itself is viewed with concern by the Houthis.

    edit: To further explain this point at least how I imagine most people in the region would at least think about. When Islam came to that land, they converted the local community to Islam. But when these new people come in, they want to kill everyone? Why don't they just convert the locals again? For most people, the explanation would be Judaism as a religion.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    This is idealist analysis. It's not a religious conflict. Forced conversion is genocide. "Israel" is not being assimilationist because they are racist and settler colonial. They don't care about Judaism. Most Israelis are atheist and the state violates the Torah. They sterilized african jews. They killed Jewish Palestinians along with the Muslims.

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