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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd be surprised if she did meet the threshold, but even if she does there's not a chance she'll get enough ordinary members to vote for her. I think she'd be wise (not her strong suit admittedly) to bide her time, wait for the Tory party to get gutted at the next GE and capitalise on the anger of party members to win then.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having watched the Tories tragic approach to tactics over this term in government, I agree, intelligence is not a talent they possess. Whether the timing is right or not is irrelevant to the outcome. She will always have to come to the point of convincing the rank and file that she is the best choice they have.

I think Cameron is going to be a much bigger catalyst for a change in direction for the Tories than people are seeing atm. All the focus will be on Greensill and how he dragged us out of the EU. While forgetting he is now in charge of Foreign policy, and being an ardent remainer. Is this a turning point for what Sunak believes? There is one thing that is certain, polling will change direction as Tory voters will flood back under Cameron. But will they flood back before the party implodes is the question. Time to microwave some Popcorn.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She will always have to come to the point of convincing the rank and file that she is the best choice they have.

True, but if there's a vote right now, she will lose. If she waits until after a GE she has all the time between now and then to chip away at Sunak's Gvmt, especially after it loses the GE. There'll be a lot of time to bottle up the party's anger then use it in a leadership bid, time she simply doesn't have now.

I think you're bang on about Cameron. It's a dangerous political move by Sunak for all the reasons you state. I don't think there'll be a flood back exactly but some will return. There's still a huge amount of Johnson fans in the party and a lot may depend on what he thinks of Cameron's return.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

if there’s a vote right now

I think the only way we will see is if it happens. The turmoil of the Truss election showed me how easily the worst option can come through. Truss was seen by many as the most likely and the most idiotic choice before campaigning began. Braverman is in that position again, and a lot of the saner tory members have left. The voter base has inevitably swung further to the right because of it. But OFC it is postulation. Let us see how it pans out.