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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I've seriously looked into picking one of these dead languages up and honestly, it's not worth it.

Biggest issue is, you have to be experienced to some degree before you get the name your price levels. So you'll have to take regular ol average programmer pay (at best) for a language that's a nightmare in 2023. Your sanity is at heavy risk.

I'd honestly rather bash my head with assembly, it's still very much in use these days in a modern way. Most programs still get compiled into it anyway (Albeit to a far more complicated instruction set than in the past) and can still land some well paid positions for not a whole lot of experience (relatively)

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Yeah everytime someone says "just learn COBOL, you'll make tons of money," it's like,

Bro.

There's a reason no one wants to write new software in these languages anymore, let alone maintain a forty-year-old pile of technical debt.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Been working in COBOL for a decade and this is all true.

I'm lucky. I personally enjoy it. But i can totally see how it's an absolute nightmare for most people.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been meaning to learn Fortran in part because because of the whole "big bucks for being willing to maintain old software" thing, but mostly because I'd like to work on the sorts of scientific computing software that was (and still often is) written in Fortran.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fortran syntax is a warm summer rain tickling your face compared to c++ for high performance computing which is like slap in the face for non it peeps

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like you got a golden shower from Fortran.

Enjoy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Its not peepee until you know its pee.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah man I'll take plain old php and java any time of day, I can still get enough money from it to pay my lifestyle. And at 5pm I can close my laptop and play vidya with no worries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

COBOL isn't too terrible, it has its gotchas (like sizing variables for inputs (in which you don't need space for the datas headers and will break stuff if you do)) but mostly it's an old language designed to be easy to use

New staff in my workplace first using COBOL (with other build experience) learn it to the point they're productive in a week or two