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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you jailbreak the Switch, you can do all of those things. But by your definition, because I can't arbitrarily install Windows software on an Apple computer, it is not a PC.

Just because it's not easy doesn't mean the Switch isn't a personal computer. It is a device you can personally own that takes bits and bytes and performs computations with them that results in things like saving a game (data storage), internet communication (network computing), and video rendering (video stream computation).

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can't "jailbreak" any current switch without replacing hardware.

You can install Windows software on a Mac.

Calling a switch a PC is a lie. It's not ambiguous, and it's not a gray area. It's a malicious, bold faced lie.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

...malicious...

Bruh, are you for real? Lol.

Words have meaning. I'm sorry you don't like the definition of Personal Computer. Go write to the dictionary committees about it. You are emphatically wrong.

https://www.britannica.com/technology/personal-computer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_computer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are a fucking idiot lmaooo, at least it's entertaining seeing you properly roasted for your clear fucking misunderstandings and defence of closed down personal computing hardware. Bravo I'm sure some Nintendo corporate stooge is smiling at you for justifying locking down bought hardware to a closed ecosystem with outrageous prices for games. Why the fuck are you even using federated social media if you love locked down controlled ecosystems?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is saying "the switch isn't a viable alternative to the steam deck because it's not a PC and can't do anywhere close to the bare minimum to be a PC" promoting a locked down ecosystem?

A console cannot be called a PC or replace a PC. It is a lesser category of product.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A console cannot be called a PC or replace a PC. It is a lesser category of product.

They can and are, lol, the definition for PC is surrounding the hardware. Whether or not the producer of said hardware has included software locks or hardware locks to prevent you from modifying the operating system on the device does not change that distinction, it only provides justification for closed ecosystems and locking down hardware a consumer has purchased, creating a monopoly over what that hardware can access. Hence why you are being called out for supporting said practices whether you set out with that intention or not. All of the devices you called out run on standard architectures for their computing resources which have drivers and kernels built in more than a couple operating systems already. If the software or hardware locks were not there, these devices would be capable of fitting into the narrowly scoped definition of PC you crafted. As others have pointed out the first gen switch can be loaded with Linux, as can a newer switch once you bypass the hardware lock. As can the ATM which runs windows server. Xboxs/Play Stations could run linux or windows as we have kernels built for ARM architecture, yet they are locked down. Allowing companies to redefine their devices allows them to skirt antitrust laws and parroting those same talking points only serves to reduce your ability to use/recycle hardware you have previously purchased.