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What makes you say that? This figure comes from health officials of Palestine, at least according to the article.
I want to qualify this with - we know what israel and the idf are doing is terribly wrong, and under no stretch of the imagination, can their actions be justified.
So, now that that's clear - the palestinian health authority is directly controlled by HAMAS, and aljazeera is biased in the conflict, due to their relation and ownership.
We cannot trust any information and media reports coming from any source, doing so is a fools errend, and every argument follows this same cycle of futility for this reason.
What we can do, is call for an immediate cease fire and somehow band together internationally to demand an independent tribunal investigate. It may sound like a pipe-dream, but given the reality of this situation, it's quite literally the only way...
@drktrts historically, death counts coming out of Gaza have turned out to be fairly accurate. Ockham's Razor would suggest this is likely to be no different in that respect.
This is why humanitarian organizations are using these stats, as Reuters reports.
that's not the point. there have been several major incidents that have proven information in general (on both sides) have been inconsistent. That's why I suggest (since we all unanimously agree) this needs to stop and a cease-fire needs to happen asap, so we can begin the process of truly undersrabding the reality.
The UN is not unbiased or immune to misunderstanding in their reports, nor is reuters, or any other source at this point in time. We've seen this truth on several occasions. When there's two vasty opposed ans biased ministries providing pretty much the only sources of information, it's just bad practice to come to any solid conclusions. Where else in your life would you do this?
@drktrts first of all I totally agree with you that there should be a ceasefire.
But, in my life I use provisional, best guess estimates based on past experience on a pretty regular basis. Everyone does.
The reasoning from Human Rights Watch is worth quoting at length:
Source.
That's quite a stretch. There are neutral sources reporting the conflict, including UN.