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I don't really use facebook anymore so couldn't care less; but so happened to log in today to change my password and saw this on my front page.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So this is how it will start.

First it will be a back and forth war of Anti-adblockers vs Adblockers

Then when the Anti-Adblockers start to lose, which they will, then they'll come crying to various governments with massic PAC campaigns among other insane garbage about how "Adblockers are Piracy!" and that they need to be banned.

This will not end well.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It'll end well enough. People will just stop using their shitty platforms. They'll start looking for alternatives, from which there are loads, find that there are platforms that don't require ads, and go there.

Those that stay deserve the shit they get

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

You're massively overestimating the conviction of the average internet user. They'll do whatever they're told is cool to do, including visiting a site that is nothing but ads.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Alternatieve for youtube ? Have yet too find a good one 😞

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The closest thing I've seen is lbry, where some creators have mirrored their YouTube accounts. But it feels like a very small number of them uploading there.

E to add: As with all alternative platforms, it's also home to a lot of content that was kicked off of more mainstream platforms for one reason or another.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Peertube. Youtube, but with federation and webhooks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

TILvidsis a peertube instance with a focus high quality educational content. There is vastly less content compared to YouTube but the videos that are there tend to be really good.

This should help you get started with peertube

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For desktop I use the FreeTube client. For mobile, there's various options line NewPipe and Revanced. But these are all Android Only.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Those are literally all still YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Newpipe supports federated video plataforms like peertube.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They asked for an alternative for youtube, not to youtube.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The thing is, if they get really stupid with it I could just go ahead and install pi hole. I haven't already because it's a bit of a fiddle on and I don't apparently don't need it yet. There's no way for the government to mandate against that, unless they actually want to ban me from owning a computer, Which obviously won't really work.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That only allows DNS-based blocking of domains, which isn't going to be nearly as effective. A lot of modern ads are served up from the same domain that you're visiting. Browser-based ad-blocker extensions are in a position to block domains, URLs, and specific parts of the HTML DOM itself. This is going to sound rude, and I'm sorry in advance, but when people bring up pi hole, I assume they aren't very knowledgeable about how things work.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pihole was once a good adblocker, but as more and more websites realize ads being served from an external domain are easily blocked, they too push their ads through their own domain.

Pihole is still good for some pages, but mostly, its useless as an adblocker.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have 2 piholes on my network, mostly useless they might be but both block over 20% of the traffic, ublock origin and Firefox take care of the rest. Are you sure you set it up correctly?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

20% is a far cry from what it used to be, and it also depends on your use case.

I'm spend my time online 60% on lemmy, 30% on YouTube, and 10% elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The internet access on my network is much more varied, 12 clients including work laptops, an HTPC, Unraid server, smart TV, phones, watches, tablets, games console, VR headset. Several of these use VPNs so bypass the piholes, I used to see up to 45% a few years ago, but I see no reason to switch them off just because other systems are taking up the slack. Seriously, I can't remember the last time I saw an ad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s definitely not useless, it blocks a ton.

There’s only a few sites, like YouTube it doesn’t help much on.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Pihole hasn't worked with YouTube in almost a decade. They changed their ad service to their own domain, so there isn't any way to distinguish between an ad and a regular video on the domain level that pihole uses.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Setting up a pihole takes minutes, and will block literally millions of ads on your home network.

The biggest hurdle is teaching yourself not to click on sponsored links. Google will still show promoted results, but you'll get an error when the pi blocks them from loading. This is annoying for new users, especially if some of the users don't care that they are being manipulated and just want to see the thing google wants to sell them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eventually they will just use server side authentication that the ads were displayed properly and the best an adblocker can do is draw a grey rectangle over it and mute your tabs sound.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or Ad Nauseum, which make them think the ad is there.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This will be the way.