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The whole "bovine" joke was hilarious on one hand and a little horrifying on the other. It got me thinking: how would I feel if an animal I was about to consume came up to me enthusiastically conveying its consent for being eaten? I will be horrified, just like Arthur! But why?

Will it be better to eat against its consent instead? Why?

Then… what about salad's consent?! Interesting thought experiment…

I am presenting the joke in the form of three extracts from the text:

Extract 1:

"A large dairy animal approached Zaphod Beeblebrox's table, a large fat meaty quadruped of the bovine type with large watery eyes, small horns and what might almost have been an ingratiating smile on its lips. "Good evening," it lowed and sat back heavily on its haunches, "I am the main Dish of the Day. May I interest you in parts of my body?" It harrumphed and gurgled a bit, wriggled its hind quarters into a more comfortable position and gazed peacefully at them. Its gaze was met by looks of startled bewilderment from Arthur and Trillian, a resigned shrug from Ford Prefect and naked hunger from Zaphod Beeblebrox. "Something off the shoulder perhaps?" suggested the animal, "Braised in a white wine sauce?" "Er, your shoulder?" said Arthur in a horrified whisper. "

Extract 2:

"‘You mean this animal actually wants us to eat it?’ whispered Trillian to Ford. ‘Me?’ said Ford, with a glazed look in his eyes. ‘I don’t mean anything.’ ‘That’s absolutely horrible,’ exclaimed Arthur, ‘the most revolting thing I’ve ever heard.’ ‘What’s the problem, Earthman?’ said Zaphod, now transferring his attention to the animal’s enormous rump. ‘I just don’t want to eat an animal that’s standing there inviting me to,’ said Arthur, ‘it’s heartless.’ ‘Better than eating an animal that doesn’t want to be eaten,’ said Zaphod. ‘That’s not the point,’ Arthur protested. Then he thought about it for a moment. ‘All right,’ he said, ‘maybe it is the point. I don’t care, I’m not going to think about it now. I’ll just . . . er . . .’"

Extract 3:

"I think I’ll just have a green salad,’ he muttered. ‘May I urge you to consider my liver?’ asked the animal. ‘It must be very rich and tender by now, I’ve been force-feeding myself for months.’ ‘A green salad,’ said Arthur emphatically. ‘A green salad?’ said the animal, rolling his eyes disapprovingly at Arthur. ‘Are you going to tell me,’ said Arthur, ‘that I shouldn’t have green salad?’ ‘Well,’ said the animal, ‘I know many vegetables that are very clear on that point. Which is why it was eventually decided to cut through the whole tangled problem and breed an animal that actually wanted to be eaten and was capable of saying so clearly and distinctly. And here I am.’ It managed a very slight bow. ‘Glass of water, please,’ said Arthur."

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, explaining your own joke is crass. Explaining a joke from somebody who is actually funny is... worse, somehow, but...

...it's because in the joke the cow is sentient. The cow is anthropomorphic and speaks, so it reads like cannibalism.

Which is deployed both for the laughs and to make a point.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In real life cows are sentient as well.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe the correct word here would have been "sapient", not "sentient".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sentient: able to perceive or feel things.

Sapient: 1. wise or wanting to appear wise 2. relating to the human species, of the species Homo sapiens.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would have used this definition, though apparently used mainly in literature:

Of a species or life-form, possessing intelligence or self-awareness. [source: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sapient]

Since it makes a lot more sense in this context to be weirded out by the cow talking, rather than it possessing feelings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I was replying to Tekila’s comment about ‘real life’ cows which I think are best thought of as ‘sentient’ but I appreciate your point.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Cows do have feelings, and they're mostly indolence and contempt.

They don't normally tell you that unless they decide to kick you or headbutt you, though, so that makes them significantly easier to eat than when they're anthropomorphic and talking to you about it.

Which is the joke.

We can pedant this all the way to the ground. I have no more chores left for a while.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

For a while. Because the planet is a sphere and sometimes people sleep, or go to work. And then they stop doing those things and it gets loud again.