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He is the latest GOP candidate to be booed for criticizing Trump

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hitler was young and had a second chance after imprisonment. Trump won't have that luxury if convicted, especially if the 14th is invoked.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Donald Trump is a symptom and not the disease.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm morbidly curious to see what happens when the "host" of the disease dies though. Where are his supporters going to go? What are they going to do? Who are they going to start supporting?

Many have tried to replace Trump, but have so far failed. Those idiot voters are going to follow him off the cliff if it means avoiding admittance they were wrong.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not worried about Don Sr. if he's convicted, but if there aren't serious convictions among his children, I'm somewhat worried that Don Jr. or Ivanka might step in as the next fascist of choice for the GOP. I think Ivanka and Kushner are smart enough to stay out of the political limelight if they get out of this shit show without a long jail term, but Don Jr. is practically a carbon copy of the racist asshole that spawned him.

However, the rest of the maga bootlickers currently in office prove that you don't need to be a Trump to spew hateful rhetoric and persecute minorities, so who knows. I'm hopeful that some serious repercussions at the highest levels of the Trump administration might be able to restore some of the deteriorating political norms, and that plus a few more judges tossing out gerrymandered maps might be the last few nails in the coffin for the GOP. But then again, the genie might be out of the bottle and the next fascist that makes it to the Oval Office probably won't be as incompetent as Trump.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Hitler didn't have children or a vast network of multinational corpofascists to carry on his ambitions after he ~~Burned two women and escaped to Argentina~~ killed himself.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly asking here, can't they just appeal the conviction to the supreme court and get it thrown out? The supreme court has been abusing it's power for a while now, thanks to the stacked GOP judges

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

You don't always get to appeal all the way up. Now, I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is that an appeal can be heard or rejected. Let's say Trump is convicted in the DC case and sentenced to 20 years in prison. (Which, for him, might as well be a life sentence.)

Trump would appeal. The appeals court could decide to hear his case or deny his appeal. If they deny it, that's it. Game over. He can't appeal the appeal denial.

If they accept and hear the case, they can overrule the verdict, overturn part of it (e.g. instruct the judge to use different metrics to decide on how long a sentence should be), or rule against him.

If the appeals court hears his case, but rules against him, he might be able to appeal up a level, but he might not be allowed or the higher up level might deny it (game over again).

And even if it gets to the Supreme Court, they might not take up the case and might not rule for him. For all their horribleness (which is plenty), the conservative Supreme Court justices seem hell bent on pushing a conservative agenda. They realize that Trump wants to push a Trump agenda. This might include some conservative elements, but it also might mean doing things that even they (the conservative Supreme Court justices) find distasteful. They might toss Trump to the curb so that a more conservative Republican could take office.