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Oh, so you do negotiate with terrorists ? Seems like we(sterners) will simply refuse to negotiate when we're stronger.


They've already lost more territory than if they immediately accepted russian terms 20 months ago(, instead they killed their negotiators for treason).
Seems like Russia made the right choice, i'm glad it didn't end up in the definitive end of the world by nuclear weapons over this.
Demilitarisation is necessary because you don't know what the future elections will bring. Russia's has more than one goal, but i think that its main one was/is to avoid the transformation of Ukraine into n.a.t.o.'s tool( against them), i'm glad if they succeeded in that, and sorry for everyone's deaths&injuries.
Now we(sterners) will try to open other fronts, Georgia is still in our mind, Scandinavia and Baltic states as well, but Central Asia is even more interesting, especially Kazakhstan, Ukraine was only one of the options and it's not "our" deaths, only paper money(, like, what, 5% of our military budget ? It'd still be profitable even if it wasn't in loans and from our own military industries).
Of course, as everyone knows, stopping our conflicts with the many countries who disagree with us is out of the question, because... (?)
More than a little early for victory dances.
Russia won as soon as the u.s.a. decided that the certainty of a nuclear apocalypse wasn't worth intervening(, which is why they didn't invade the U.s.s.r. and China back then). The question was more about the losses they would have before then.
I don't know how many more months of "necessary lies" about successful counteroffensives we need before admitting it.
Sure, it would be different if Russia occupied hostile territories.
And i still think about this :

Every war sucks, it's just that we can't ignore that we're at war against them, it's too easy to blame them for reacting to our hostility while not trying to solve the cause(s), our demands for peace shouldn't be addressed only to Russia but mainly towards the west(, and Russia is only one of those oppressed by the "arrogant powers"), if only we were all united in diversity then wars waged for security reasons would cease to exist.