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Members of the uncontacted Hongana Manyawa tribe in Indonesia have been filmed recently confronting developers who tear up their forest.

Logging and mining operations on the Indonesian island are now penetrating the rainforest of uncontacted Hongana Manyawa people.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no sensible argument for the continuation of gasoline cars. Spills are much worse to the environment and the constant dumping of CO2 is literally causing millions of acres to burn.

Fuck off

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can be mad at both, that was always allowed

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

NO! I must side with my political party on all topics! Otherwise I risk having a thought occur.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm against oil propaganda, it has nothing to do with any political party. Gas companies are not your friend.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Being mad at both only helps the oil barons. Maybe we can wait until we aren't setting off a new feedback loop every month before trying to make cars out of sunlight.

Resource extraction and vehicles are going to be a part of our society for a long time. I hate cars but anyone saying "green" ev vehicle with those quotes is the enemy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well no, our future is public transport, if we don't kill ourselves first, which we will.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, 100%. But switching to ev right now is literally how we don't kill ourselves first.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

By using gas and coal energy to mine lithium and nickel? Destroying millions of acres of forest in the process and contaminating God knows how much land and water?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like I said, we can concentrate on making cars out of sunshine after we aren't pumping death into the atmosphere.

Normal cars take resources as well to build and keep polluting non stop after they are built. Even worse, the resources they need just to run are fucking terrible for the environment to extract and use, not to mention the spills. There's no contest, gas is always worse.

We don't have time to transition to only public transport while keeping our dependence on oil.

It's either EVs now and a public transport future, or gas induced suicide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Whats funny is that is also a big oil talking point. Either climate change doesn't exist and EVs are stupid, or climate change does exist but it's too late so it doesn't matter what we drive. You are being manipulated into having no hopes so the profits keep rolling in, nice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think cars in general are bad. I think fossil fuel executives should be shot. I don't think you know my opinions as well as you think you do lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This seems to be in line with my thinking, I'm just trying not to play into their hand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No dude, I totally get it. Not much you can do except try and explain it to as many people as you can before you become exhausted. Plant as many trees as you can in the mean time and vote green party. Keep up the good fight.